Bob

Sodnomdarja's awards are: Russian: Order of Red Banner Victory over Japan Medal (not 100% sure) Mongolian: Order of Sukhbaatar (2x) Order of Red Banner for Labour Valor Order of Red Banner for Combat Valor Order of Combat Merit Honorary Medal of Combat (2x) Polar Star (2x) Medal We Won Medal 25 Years of MPR Deputy badge (not 100% sure) Badge for 15th Anniversary of the Mongolian Revolution I'll be posting pics of his orders booklets soon. What's interesting to note is that the dates for above awards suggest that his Mongolian Red Banner for Combat Valor and 2x Medal of Combat were actually awarded for combat operations. The Order of Red Banner for Combat Valor for instance has a date of 1921 in his orders book... (presumably implying 1931).

Another picture (enlarged, but his red banner - both russian and mongolian - are clear)... more to come

Yep, apparently Voroshilov personally presented the 4 Red Banners during a visit to Mongolia. I'm hoping to receive a photograph of this. Please PM me your email address and will send a better scan.

Apparently all in all 17 Orders of the Red Banner were awarded to Mongolians (I'm not sure if this means "ever" or just of the early orders or... ). This specific one in this thread was part of an awarding of 4 Red Banners to key Mongolian revolutionary leaders. Ed's picture posted earlier should provide an interesting clue... Once I've got everything in my hands, I'll be posting quite a bit more and by then perhaps this thread should move to "researched awards" or in fact to the Mongolia forum (I know, it's a soviet award... but still )

Would greatly appreciate some translation help - this is I believe an additional document relating to the red banner. Happy to provide a larger file via email to anybody who'd be willing and able to provide some translation help.

http://books.google.com/books?id=49hwAAAAM...dash&pgis=1 Although the russian archives might not want to share anything, I hope in coming weeks to be able to paint a much more specific picture on who our guy is. Will have a look in the blue bible (containing Mongolian bio's) tomorrow as well as he should be in there... this is going to get more and more interesting.

I'll be dripping some more bits and pieces into this thread during the coming weeks... First: "Sodnomdarjaa, one of the most famous Partisans of 1921 and the leader of a raid, several years later, into a no-man's-land..." http://books.google.com/books?id=wMBxAAAAM...H-AQ&pgis=1 Sounds like an interesting book, so have ordered it via ABE.com

Thanks - sometimes the answer is right in front of you. I googled for hours to find the name of a mongolian person (see red banner thread in soviet section) and simply didn't even consider googling for this :speechless:

Ed mentioned that Rick R's first post in this thread was the very first Mongolia post. It's fun to read the old posts back. :cheeky:

Have to think hard about what I'd love to have researched the most. Probably: 1) old style red banner that I have 2) industrialization valor which - i have strong suspicions - was awarded to a person who's SB I also have 3) and then, well... do I have to choose? This is of course a "problem" we do not yet have... :unsure:

These are one group or are seperate singles?

Congratulations What was actually the first post? :unsure:

What? You haven't posted yet??? Show show show! :cheers:

Probably, but isn't it great the Mongolia section has progressed to raise such questions - we've certainly come a long way already from "hey, i have a polar star with the serial number at 7 'o clock instead of 6 'o clock" And on top, more and more often we are seeing groups / singles where the "story" behind it is know (I'm in process of getting the 2 groups I posted a while ago which have the recipient posted in the blue bible translated). Things are only getting better and better :cheers:

Range of (Aimag mainly I think) deputy badge documents related to following group: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=5226...0&start=100 Top row: 1961 Archangai / 1963 Archangai / 1965 Archangai Middle row: 1969 (perhaps not aimag?) / 1975 (perhaps not aimag either) / 1975 Archangai Bottom: 1981 Archangai

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=5226...0&start=100 Some documents related to MPRP (membership or just participation in conference?) from above group - top to bottom: 1960 / 1961 / 1961 / 1968 / 1971 And on the right: another document for 1961 For 1971, there is a badge in Battushig (and I'm looking for that badge!)

Yep, and those are not all "long service" awards for him :rolleyes:

Got more scans in. Ed, I think my guy is the guy on the right of your picture... Oh, and notice the dress again... perhaps a "member of parliament" dress?

I made him an offer, but unfortunately it was an offer that he COULD refuse... I admit, I ehmm lowballed just for the fun of it :cheers:

Update - guesstimate from Rick Research on the missing ribbon is "Swedish Vasa or maybe a Persian Lion and Sun". Not being familiar with Italian history, would any of those two options historically make sense? First row: Commendatore dell'Ordine dei Santi Maurizio e Lazzaro / Grande Ufficiale dell'Ordine della Corona d'Italia / Commendatore dell'Ordine Coloniale della Stella d'Italia Second row: Commander in the Order of Scanderbeg / Sovrano Militare Ordine di Malta, Ordine di S. Giovanni di Gerusalemme, di Rodi e di Malta / 'Order of the German Eagle' (Nazi award) / x Third row: Bulgarian Order of Civil Merit? / 'Vatican Order of St Sylvester' / Ordine Equestre del Santo Sepolcro di Gerusalemme / Romanian Order of the Crown (knight?)

Nope. Sitting back and waiting. I am curious of course... i recall buying some (undocumented) high end stuff a few years ago where the seller insisted on selling it as one set... always had the thought that he was trying to keep something together which should stay together... hope to find out someday, until then... keeping them carefully together:)