Many thanks Chris! I deeply appreciate the help. I'll veer off. About given up on getting one unless I have to spend a bloody fortune. Wish I'd never let my original go way back in the mid 80's. Traded it for a very nice cased EK1. Was fairly new to it all, really really wanted a cased EK. Long before the net of course. Just Der Gauleiter, Manions, word of mouth, flea markets and gun/militaria shows. Oh well... live and learn I guess.