order_of_victory

So its just a comon copy and nothing special

Here is a intrestingitem I found on ebay and I was wondering if any body could shed any light on it. Heres the Seller Discription of the item, "A couple weeks ago I attended the biggest militaria show in the USA ? the MAX show. I was lucky to obtain there a strong group (I wouldn?t call it a ?collection? ? rather ?accumulation?) of Soviet orders and medals. I am starting to break it. Though I am not a specialist in Soviet decorations, I?ll do my best to give the best descriptions I can. This lot is the COPY of the Star of the HERO of the USSR. It is the OFFICIAL ISSUE of the MOSCOW MINT (VERY RARE SUCH!). ORIGINAL Mint screw. PROPER INSCRIPTION on the back! I've not seen the cimilar item for several years! $3.50 shipping in the USA with delivery confirmation. We accept PayPal and all major credit cards. Good luck! The scan shows the exact decoration which made the lot. Don't confuse this copy with other copies, which were commercially made! This is one of a kind item! RARE!!! The item is in perfect condition. The scan is ABSOLUTELY no good. " Now ive never heard of a offical copy of an award before..... I will try and get a better picture but last time the seller would not supply a better a picture.

Thanks Ed, I had never heard of it before, I guess I missed the lesson on Khalkhin Gol

Nice badge, What is Halhingol?

Rich, Thanks for confirming that it is a Suvorov 2nd. Also thanks for indentifying the Polish Medals. I have contacted the seller to see weather he know anything about the owner bar, if find out any thing about it I will let you know.

Thanks Gerd, He certainly had great carer, he must of seen some serious action in GPW Its just asshame i dont have the orders to go with the bar

I have just aquired this medal bar from the pictures it looks to be the the Lucite type, Here a list of the medals I can identify Row 1 - Order of Lenin, 3x Order of the Red Banner, Row 2 - Order of Bogdan Khmelnitsky 2nd Class?, Order of GPW 1st Class, Order of the Red Star, Medal for the Defense of Caucasus. Row 3 - Victoy over Germany, Medal for Liberation of Warsaw, For the Capture of Berlin, 30th Anniversary of the Soviet Army. Row 4 - No Idea Order of Bogdan Khmelnitsky 2nd Class is just guess. If any one can identify any of the medals on this bar it would appreciated.

I would say that that the number to low for its year. My Order of the October Revolution is 61003 and was issued in 1973, hope that helps

Sorry about that I picked up his name somewere else in the forum, I did not releise Russia was still tuchy about such things

Dave Is G.K. the best person to email regrding Soviet Medal reserch (I saw he recomended else were on the forum)

The 40 Lenin Medal is the Jubilee Medal for 40 years of the Armed Forces of the USSR

Would it be worth resershing a Order of Otober Revolution

Soviet Screw Back Orders tend appear smaller than medals on suppension. I am still geting over the shock of how Small my Hero Socilist Labour Hammer and Sickle Gold Sar is and I bought that a few years ago

Just reading through the pointers for reaserching Soviet Orders with Award books, got me wondering how easy is it to research a Order of the October Revolution

Well when you think Collect Russia has a Gory 1st for 5,600 USD and a Glory 2nd for 395 USD. The price for the Cased 2nd Seems a bit steep to me!

Well they've both been sold Some one obviously thought the price was right for both pieces

and once there back in Russia they cant be exported back to the West. Also the more pieces that go back to Russia the less there will in circulation so high end prices will go up in the West!

I would say Moscow.

From this it sound to me like soon we are not going to be able to tell real Soviet Medals from Fakes. Im going to have to look in to these medals further!

Hi Since my last posts on the Order of Red Banner of Labour and Order of the Red Banner of Labour of the Trans-Causian Republic. I have had then checked out by some one who know a lot about Soviet Medals, Not PMD, he as checked the Enamle uder a 'Black Light'. The enamle didnt shine wich means the medals must have been produced in Soviet Russia, not after the wall came down! Has anybody got any more suggetions on the authenticity of these medals?

Ritichie, Iam trying to get a scan of my '43 doc, but its not uploading to the forum at the moment. It will be here soon.

Hi My Medal for the Defence of Sevastopol has a document dated 1943, is that any help to you?

I currently have a number of medal documents including the following Documents for the Order of Lenin: 443032 441699 357326 Order of The October Revolution: 41412 Order of Lenin and Order of the Badge of Honour both issued to the same person: 454399 (Lenin) 283778 (Honour) Order of Monther Glory 1st and 2nd Class Both Issued to same person: 179920 (1st Class) 403366 (2nd Class) Order of the Patriotic War 2nd Class and Order of Nevsky (One Document): 343087 (GPW 2nd Class) 25194 (Nevsky) Order of the Red Star and Medal of Ushakov (One Document): 1452691 (Red Star) 1789 (Ushakov) Medal For Bravery: 710491 Order of Lenin, Order of the Red Star and the Order of the Red Banner (One Document): 953445 (Red Star) 342288 (Red Banner) 252492 (Lenin) Order of Lenin, Order of the Red Banner, Order of the Red Star, Order of the Red Star, Order of GPW 2nd Class, Medal for Combat Service and Medal for Valour (One Document Dated 1939!) 10798 (Valour) 28022 (GPW 2nd Class) 1813143 (Combat Service) 1205096 (Red Star) 2019519 (Red Star) 391666 (Red Banner) 385753 or could be 325253 (Lenin) So there you have it, if you have any of these medal please contact me and I will supply you with the document! There will be more to come!

Sorry I didnt see the dates on the post I bought that 2nd class first time round in April 2005!

I bought the 2nd class fake but had it checked out before I acctually took delivery and rejected the medal and the seller gave me real one in return. But seller has just tried to sell the 2nd class again recently When the auction closed I contacted the highest bidder and told him to reject the medal!