Guest Rick Research Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 I don't know any way to tell WHICH branch of State Security any given blueberry blue piped tunic/smock is with dark blue "Waffenfarbe" 6 sided boards, NKVD troops versus NKGB. But the "other" NKVD (police, fire, etc) weren't State Security, and had their own uniforms. There are threads way back in the old pages with wartime SS, Militia (civil police) insignia and a M1943 Police General's uniform. Different colors when not SS. Not blueberry blue. (5 sided blueberry blue - cavalry, not SS.)The bottle boards weren't general issue, I don't think, but a rare ephemeral variant before the boards were standardized. State Security NKVD blueberry blue from 1943 carried straight on through name changes MGB and KGB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daredevil Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 (edited) The bottle boards for officers were like the "wave" boards for NKVD/NKGB Generals; they were supposed to be NKGB but seem to have been used by NKVD while NKGB seemed to have used the regular boards too. Really difficult to nail down; I could post shots of all these on tunics...if i could post pics : (Here is a nice shot of an NKGB General following Malenkov at the VP in 1945; his boards have the "wave".DD Edited October 6, 2006 by Daredevil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nack Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 Thanks guys. A bit confusing, but I guess that makes it interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 That's because the NKVD (which stands for nothing more sinister than People's Commissariat of Internal Affairs) was a vast "umbrella" organization covering everything from firemen to concentration camp guards and the secret as well as "street" police. But all the various subdivisions had their own uniforms and colors, so it's like the difference between the German Green Police and General ("Black") SS--all under Heinrich Himmler, but with very distinct basic purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nack Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 Thanks Rick--I should write this stuff down to keep it straight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takc Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 some info - 1959 regulationshttp://www.wedomstwa-uniforma.narod.ru/for...9/1959.html#ris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takc Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 NAVY as of 1952http://www.wedomstwa-uniforma.narod.ru/for...a1952/1952.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted September 20, 2008 Author Share Posted September 20, 2008 Hi all,Just picked these up at a local auction today:Looks like a promotion? :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted September 20, 2008 Author Share Posted September 20, 2008 Closeup of the writing on one of the boards:Dan :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lapa Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Closeup of the writing on one of the boards:Dan Dan,These boards were manufactured in 1987. I believe they are for a sergeant.Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 :Cat-Scratch: What is on the stripes-- MOLD ??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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