EK 1914 Iron crosses being made

[joerookery]

I am not a medal guy, nor do I know ifthis picture is well-known or not. I found them in a 1916 German-American newspaper.

[Kev in Deva]

I am not a medal guy, nor do I know ifthis picture is well-known or not. I found them in a 1916 German-American newspaper.

Hallo Joerookery

Very interesting pictures thanks for posting, I for 1, have never seen it before.

Kevin in Deva.

[Scott P]

Im new too collecting,but I pay attention to detail.That pic is showing a 2 piece core.?

Scott

[Kev in Deva]

Im new too collecting,but I pay attention to detail.That pic is showing a 2 piece core.?

Scott

Hallo Scott P,

most (but not all) Prussian EK II had two pieces of Iron in them, thats why the rattle when shaken you can read more in the Iron Cross section of the Club, at:

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showforum=113

OK Gentlemen, relying on our Club experts, who have a wealth of knowledge, I stand humbly corrected, but to me the picture indicates two Iron cores being used, otherwise why bother to put them in the line up??

Kevin in Deva

Edited September 3, 2006 by Kev in Deva

[Tom Y]

Hallo Scott P,

most (but not all) Prussian EK II had two pieces of Iron in them, thats why the rattle when shaken you can read more in the Iron Cross section of the Club, at:

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showforum=113

Kevin in Deva

I beg to differ. The vast majority of cores are one piece, the only exception being those stamped from sheet steel. Occasionally an unmounted core will turn up on ebay or with one of the European dealers.

[Paul R]

I wonder if any of those photo'ed crosses(after being finished) are in anyones collections at this time?

[Daniel Murphy]

I would not say that this definitively shows stamped core EKs being made. The photo of the steps in making the EK could show the different sides of two cast cores. Since there is no photo shown of the making of the cores, there is no way to know. If there was one photo that showed the cores lying about we would know for sure. There are EK2s with 2 piece stamped cores, but these are most likely replacement pieces made later. I do not believe these were made as early as 1916. Even when you see the frames deteriorating later in the war to neusilber or silver plate, we still see cast cores on issued EK2s. The two I have with stamped cores are unmarked with plated frames and one has a split ring for mounting, which shows it is a spangenstuck. One thing I find most interesting is the pile of little planchets from which a number of mini EKs have been cut.

Dan

Edited September 3, 2006 by Daniel Murphy

[joerookery]

[joerookery]

[joe campbell]

the picture of the cores is, in fact obverse/reverse

of the cores.

one of the reasons that i love imperial crosses

is because there were gov't guidelines, but LOTS

of poetic license in terms of manufacture.

one piece, cast crosses...

two piece hollow crosses.... (see the iron time,

with the EK 2 awarded for valor in tanganyika)...

some very interesting pictures!

my thanks!

joe

[Tom Y]

These photos and others appeared in a booklet which is buried somewhere around my hovel. I've been reticent to mention it, as I can't scan it without doing serious damage to the spine

[Kev in Deva]

These photos and others appeared in a booklet which is buried somewhere around my hovel. I've been reticent to mention it, as I can't scan it without doing serious damage to the spine

Tom, whatever you do dont damage the booklet. . . . . as a last resort buy a digital camera with a good macro function , we can wait till the shops open on Monday

Kevin in Deva