EK 1914 EK2 1914 Nichtkämpferband and miniture

[EuRob]

Hello all

My new delivery and thought I would post for your perusal. I am very happy with these items.

Also could anyone tell me who the maker is, it is stamped 'G'.

Thanks

Rob

[DavidM]

Hello

On a list of medal makers marks, from The Kaisers Bunker,

http://www.kaisersbunker.com/stuff/1914_EK2_makers.htm

'G' is listed as Godet und Sohn. I like the EKs but I am uncertain about the large non combatant ribbon. It looks in your photo just a little to clean and white for something that is anything between 76 and 92 years old, (they were still making and issuing the 1914 EKs into the 1920s / 30s). Does it glow under black light, (UV light) ?

Edited October 21, 2006 by DavidM

[gregM]

That is a good looking set. Period non-combat EKs are always a nice find

and non-combat minis are not found all that often. Good score

[EuRob]

That is a good looking set. Period non-combat EKs are always a nice find

and non-combat minis are not found all that often. Good score

Thanks David, Greg.

I will check the band under UV and let you know.

I bought this from Berlin from Dealer who assured me its 100% original? But you may be right and its a replace band.

Meanwhile here is a better scan without flash.

Rob

[gregM]

David makes a very good point concerning the ribbon.

[DavidM]

Hello

The new picture without the use of flash looks more like what I would expect to see - the fading and 'yellowing' of the white areas.

[hunyadi]

very nice piece - though it is well known that ribbons can be changed - the true historical value is in the ribbon. Still - a very nice piece - esp. that mini!

[EuRob]

Hello

On a list of medal makers marks, from The Kaisers Bunker,

http://www.kaisersbunker.com/stuff/1914_EK2_makers.htm

'G' is listed as Godet und Sohn. I like the EKs but I am uncertain about the large non combatant ribbon. It looks in your photo just a little to clean and white for something that is anything between 76 and 92 years old, (they were still making and issuing the 1914 EKs into the 1920s / 30s). Does it glow under black light, (UV light) ?

Hi David

You were right. It is a replacement ribbon. I tested it under uv light and it did indeed glow!! I also burned a little of the frayed top and this did melt. I did test the mini and am glad to say that this did not glow!! Now do I have the impossible task of trying to find an original ribbon? I reckon that will be a lifelong task!!

Now my thoughts have turned to the ek itself. It does look good but hey I got it wrong on the ribbon! lol what do you think?

Cheers Rob

[Kev in Deva]

Hallo Rob,

nice find, just Lurv the mini pity about the ribbon, but in my book all crosses and medals looks naked without one

I think you have a good chance to score an original, its 99% playing the waiting game and you never know your luck, after all you were told that ribbons for the Marine Kreuz were like hens teeth and look what happened

Kevin in Deva.

[joe campbell]

i think it would be reasonable to contact your dealer

and let him know the ribbon is not period....

non-com ribbon is relatively rare, but not impossible

to find....

love the crosses!

joe

[EuRob]

hehe cheers Kev

Yep you certainly disproved my analogy, big hand to you .

i do like the mini that was the reason i got these as they were sold as a pair. Was thinking of getting hold of a combatants ribbon (period) and swapping them over and wait for the whole deal on the non combat to come along. good plan? I know some would say that the ek and band are not a true historical representation. But if it works for me? etc

The positive thing to come out of this is that I got a uv torch!! and all my other items dont glow! But get this, that flandern x band I got doesnt glow or melt but it is brand spankin new, has a feel of like when you get new sneakers it is firm, clean, serated cut at the top, ??

Rob

pssst if ya see any nichtkampferband originales knocking about ahem

[Ralph A]

Noncomb mini! Hard to find.

[Ralph A]

One way to be surer:

[stevo4361]

Those are 2 beautiful bars Ralph! Thanks for sharing them,

EDIT: AND a beaut of a mini!

Kind Regards,

Steve

Edited November 4, 2006 by stevo4361

[EuRob]

Well it seems that my idea of a lifelong quest to find a non combat ribbon took just 1 day!!

Big shout out to Tom Y who saw my thread and he has kindly donated one and it is in the post as we speak!

Cheers Tom

I hope one day I can return the favour.

[gregM]

Did someone say noncom minis

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[Tom Y]

My rather shabby example.

[gregM]

Nothing shabby about that setup Tom.

It was a very nice thing you did by offering a ribbon too Rob Nicely done !

[Kev in Deva]

Hallo Tom

Now thats what I call "shabby but with style"

Kevin in Deva.

[Stogieman]

The EK2/Mini pair that began this thread seems to be run through ebay.de at least once every month. Identical, or very similar, but every month some variation of the above is auctioned off. Food for thought.

[Stogieman]

The Non-Combattant EK2 can be fun to chase...

[gregM]

Very nice Rick

[Stogieman]

Thanks Greg.... many of you will recognize these items as sitting in your own cases! Many wonderful things have passed through my hands over the years!

[Stogieman]

Here's an eBay one now... Look Familiar??

http://cgi.ebay.de/Eisernes-Kreuz-2-Klasse...1QQcmdZViewItem

[Bill Garvy]

An "Fr." with a non-combatant ribbon. . .

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Edited November 15, 2006 by Bill Garvy