Paul C Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 I am thinking of bidding on the bar but before I do I would like some assistance. Is this a good item or fake? The combination seems possible as most of the ribbons seem to be from Mecklenburg. I can ID a few.1. EK2. ?3. Griffin with crown4. Red eagle order5. ?6. ? (M-S long service)7. CentennialCan soemone help with the ribbon ID? What regiments were from Mecklenburg? Any quess on the rank? I would say Hauptman or above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted October 26, 2006 Author Share Posted October 26, 2006 back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Isn't the second one a house order?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted October 26, 2006 Author Share Posted October 26, 2006 I think it is but I am not 100% sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gregory Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Paul,It is an interesting bar, but the seller seems to have ended the auction early.Do you already have it?David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted October 26, 2006 Author Share Posted October 26, 2006 Darn, that really sucks! No I did not get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Darn, that really sucks! No I did not get it.Hallo Paul, David Just my 10 Bani's worth but does the back of this bar look similar in style to some of the well known fakes listed on that particular thread, i.e. in particular the small piece of backing felt and style of stitching??Kevin in Deva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 It does look very new. I wear shirts longer than one day and they look worse than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K. Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 PaulI believe it to be 100% fake.Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dwyer Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 What regiments were from Mecklenburg?Paul,I know the bar is no longer in your sights, but I thought I'd try to answer this part of your questions.According to the info I have, the regiments belonging to the two Mecklenburg grand duchies in 1914 were:1. Gro?herzoglich Mecklenburgisches Grenadier-Regiment Nr.891. Gro?herzoglich Mecklenburgisches F?silier-Regiment Kaiser Wilhelm Nr.90Gro?herzoglich Mecklenburgisches J?ger-Bataillon Nr.141. Gro?herzoglich Mecklenburgisches Dragoner-Regiment Nr.172. Gro?herzoglich Mecklenburgisches Dragoner-Regiment Nr.18Gro?herzoglich-Mecklenburgisches Feld-Artillerie-Regiment Nr.60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted October 26, 2006 Author Share Posted October 26, 2006 The newness of the ribbon was one of the reasons I did not jump on it. It was also expensive at $199. I am glad I did not buy it. To all thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Made in Texas.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Danner Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Paul,I know the bar is no longer in your sights, but I thought I'd try to answer this part of your questions.According to the info I have, the regiments belonging to the two Mecklenburg grand duchies in 1914 were:1. Gro?herzoglich Mecklenburgisches Grenadier-Regiment Nr.891. Gro?herzoglich Mecklenburgisches F?silier-Regiment Kaiser Wilhelm Nr.90Gro?herzoglich Mecklenburgisches J?ger-Bataillon Nr.141. Gro?herzoglich Mecklenburgisches Dragoner-Regiment Nr.172. Gro?herzoglich Mecklenburgisches Dragoner-Regiment Nr.18Gro?herzoglich-Mecklenburgisches Feld-Artillerie-Regiment Nr.60Agree on the fakeness. On the Mecklenburgers, also add, among others:Brigade-Ersatz-Bataillon Nr. 34, later II./Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 362, later I/Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 273III/Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 409I/Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 432 (formed from 2.Landsturm-Infanterie-Bataillon Schwerin IX/2)III/Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 463Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 90Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 214 (except for III/RIR 214, which was from L?beck and Schleswig-Holstein)Landwehr-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 76 (except for III/LIR 76)Landwehr-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 386III/Landsturm-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 37 (formed from 1.Landsturm-Infanterie-Bataillon Neustrelitz IX/4Reserve-J?ger-Bataillon Nr. 14Also included are elements of other units, such as Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 187 (one of its companies came from GrenR 89), and Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 265 and Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 266, both of which were raised in the corps area that included the grand duchies, but were probably more drawn from the more densely populated Hamburg/Bremen areas and Schleswig-Holstein. Half of Reserve-Brigade-Ersatz-Bataillon Nr. 36, which later became III/Reserve-Ersatz-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 4, was drawn from RIR 90's Ersatz-Bataillon. I suspect, given the two grand duchies populations, many of these units, regular and non-regular, relied on non-Mecklenburgers more and more as the war progressed, though notionally they were sponsored or formed by Mecklenburg units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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