2 x ribbon bars

[Mike K]

Hi,

These arrived recently and I have a suspicion that although all components appear genuine, they may be "put together" bars. I have been reading the weekly fake updates but did not notice these ones there. Your thoughts would be appreciated.

Regards

Mike

[Mike K]

Reverse....

Edited November 22, 2006 by Mike K

[Paul R]

Keep in mind that I am just an amatuer, but I like the top bar. It appears to me that all of the ribbons have aged together.

I dont like the lower one. The Austrian ribbons seem a bit dirter than the Westwall and they are out of order, big time.

Lets here what the ribbonbar Meisters have to say!

[Kev in Deva]

Keep in mind that I am just an amatuer, but I like the top bar. It appears to me that all of the ribbons have aged together.

I dont like the lower one. The Austrian ribbons seem a bit dirter than the Westwall and they are out of order, big time.

Lets here what the ribbonbar Meisters have to say!

Hallo Gents

Also note the little tabs to the rear in the lower bar are very shiny compared to the top one, possibly a sign of them being recently worked on!!

Kevin in Deva

[Riley1965]

I'm also an amatuer but I do feel good about the top bar but not the bottom bar. The bottom bar does look like it's been worked on at the "Medal Mechanic's" shop

Doc

Edited November 22, 2006 by Riley1965

[Stogieman]

The Saxon Bar looks fine to me Mike, the Austrian one is out of order, but easily fixed as a tab-back. Again, I don't think it's bad!

[Riley1965]

Like it has been said..."You learn something new every day!" Stogieman, Thank You!! Like I said I'm an ametuer in the Austrian category.

Doc

[Stogieman]

PS Mike, PM me, I think I have spange to replace the missing one. The KVK-no swords is out of place but again.. tabby, easy to fix.

[Mike K]

Hi Rick,

I am happy to learn that they may indeed be good bars. From memory these two, along with a couple of doubles and a couple of single, cost about 40 Euro, so if the news was bad on the bigger bars it would not have been an expensive lesson.

What would be the correct order or precedence for the Austrian bar?

A good point was made re the two TR ribbons looking much newer than the 4 WW1 related ribbons. Was period "upgrading" common - or indeed likely? ie - an Austrian vet with his used 4-place bar goes to his local medal mouting jeweller post-41 and asks for his 2 new TR awards added - would the jeweller be likely to take the "tabbies" off his old 4-place setup and re-use the same ribbons on a "new" 6-place or simply issue a new bar with all new ribbons? I guess the vets finances would come into it.

Re the device missing from the Saxon bar, would it be a 1914EK or a 1939 Spange device? Is it possible that this well decorated WW1 combat vet retired to civil life and was too old (or injured) for regular call-up, hence the 25 yr faithful service and a correct KVK without swords? Saxon's seemed to like EK devices on their bars, hence the question.

Just curious!

Regards

Mike

PS: Rick, sending you a PM.

[Deruelle]

Interresting ribbon bars. For the first ribbon bar, the device is for the 1914 EK (I suppose)

Regards

Christophe

[Stogieman]

I don't think so, after much thought I can't remember any post '38 bars with this device on them.

[Riley1965]

Is this the Saxon device you are talking about?

Doc

[Paul R]

Nice one, Doc!