jcsanche Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Hi I recently receive the piped tunic on Heer Oberst Julius Buchert. He made it to Oberst in 1938 and spent most of the war in the Fuhrer Reserve. I received copies of his military records. I would like to know if the records may shde light on why he did not make it to GeneralregardsJuan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcsanche Posted August 7, 2007 Author Share Posted August 7, 2007 (edited) photo 2 Edited August 7, 2007 by jcsanche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jcsanche Posted August 7, 2007 Author Share Posted August 7, 2007 Hi I will be glad to e mail larger scans if requestedthanksJuane mail jcsanche@iupui.edu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcsanche Posted August 7, 2007 Author Share Posted August 7, 2007 Tunic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bernhard H.Holst Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Hello Juan.Oberst Buchert was listed in the "Rangliste des Deutschen Heeres 1944/45 " in the section S meaning Offiziere in Sonderverwendungen or officers in special duty posts. Officers listed in this part of the ranklist were those officers who were not deemed suitable to serve with troops and :their promotions were slower than officers serving with troopsand these officers rarely saw advancement to General Officers. As you can see Oberst Buchert's assignments were as commandant of cities or troop training grounds.Bernhard H. Holst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Fascinating! How can one be deemed not worthy to command troops and still hold a senior ranking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 photo 2apparently his wife had quite a drinking problem Hardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcsanche Posted August 7, 2007 Author Share Posted August 7, 2007 (edited) ThanksI thought that the one with the drinking problem was the Oberst. I guess that his wife's problem may had ruined his promotion to Generasl.thanksJuan Edited August 7, 2007 by jcsanche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 I merely dated an alcoholic for one year and she about drove me crazy!! That must have been a hard life. He should have divorced her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Frau Buchert definitely put the brakes on his career. Remember that Field Marshal von Blomberg had been finagled into a scandal with his marriage to an ex-prostitute and had to resign for having embarassed Hitler (supposedly) as an official witness at the ceremony. That, of course, was a convenient excuse for sweeping the high command out after the overall purge of lower ranking generals in February 1938 ( that quietly paralled the purge of the professional non-Nazi diplomatic corps) who had proven... less than enthusiastic about plans for the coming war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcsanche Posted August 7, 2007 Author Share Posted August 7, 2007 Well I guess he was loyal to his wife. He stayed in the Heer so he was lucky was not dismissed. I scaned a 6 page letter bty him to the Heer personnel office and a reply. Thanks to Nexus german knowledge we may know more. I guess he may had been lucky that he was not promoted as he may had endured a lot of hardship and probably longer captivity.These document was signed just befor the war started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcsanche Posted August 7, 2007 Author Share Posted August 7, 2007 Documment signed by Leitel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Documment signed by Leitel?or General Field Marshal KEITEL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcsanche Posted August 7, 2007 Author Share Posted August 7, 2007 Hi paul I meant Keitel?thanksJuan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 What does Keitel's report say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 First is a personal copy of the original signed file copy of 16 August 1939 retirement for Buchert EFFECTIVE 31 AUGUST 1939. NO coincidence, there!!!! The second is just a routine and letter of "thanks" for all his service in war and peace andBOOMyou're outta the army in TWO WEEKS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Thanks Ricky! Why would they kick him out(Retire him) just before the war? Was he really that big of a pain? I am sure that he was eventually recalled! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Thanks Ricky! Why would they kick him out(Retire him) just before the war? Was he really that big of a pain? I am sure that he was eventually recalled! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Perhaps the earlier paperwork reveals more. He was young, not sick (himself), and when every warm body with at least 2 extremities was being pressed back into service, for him to be retired suggests1) major problems with him (none seen so far)2) major problems with wife (seen SOME explanation for that)3) political hostility4) running afoul of the Nuremburg Laws somehow.I have a Bavarian civil servant group where the former WW1 reserve officer was cashiered from his job just as the Nuremburg Laws came in. He was a Protestant, so political enmity over Catholic Center Party politics under Weimar seems unlikely. I suspect his wife, too, may have been the "problem" somehow. Didn't keep him from being recalled and promoted during WW2.Buchert was immediately called back, serving in sporadic dead end garrison jobs. But according to the records Juan has posted, ended the war commanding Grenadier/Security Regiment 613 in 203rd Inf Div as of December 1944. The scan there suggests some OTHER disciplinary matter, but only the front is shown. That doesn't seem to have anything to do with the earlier wife-falling-down-drunk-in-public court proceeding... unless that is when it finally came up.If he got dumped out AGAIN at this point, it probably saved his life-- since the 203rd was being pounded to smithereens the alst year of the war by the Soviet advance through Poland into Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webr55 Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Interesting he was immediately recalled as commander of the important training area Hammelburg - there were rear-area posts with much less responsibilities.BTW, that ribbon bar should of course not go with the tunic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcsanche Posted August 8, 2007 Author Share Posted August 8, 2007 Hi Thanks for all the help. The robbon bar does not belong to the uniform. It was used to hide a small defect on the uniform. He had a good career. In the USA ARMY only a small percentage make it to General. This is the chronology of his careerHe was born in 3-6-1891Joined the Army in 191118-12-1911 Uffz22-3- 191122-3-1912 Fahnrich10-11-1912 LT22-3-1916 ObLT12-3-1930 Hptm1-4-1933 Major1-11-35 Obstlt1-4-1938 OberstI am attaching some more scansThanksJuan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcsanche Posted August 8, 2007 Author Share Posted August 8, 2007 (edited) carrer 2 Edited August 8, 2007 by jcsanche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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