Luftwaffe Luftwaffe Ingenieurkorps insignia

[Paul R]

Garth,

I do have a question about these wreath only collar tabs. I have seen them in a green waffenfarbe as well. Are these the only two waffenfabe? What do the various colors mean in these tabs? (does pink still mean engineering and green still mean admin)

What is the difference in the actual roles played(between the engineers that wore the standard propeller/wreath tabs and the Sonderfuhrer(?) tabs without the propeller)?

I apologize for the questions, yet my only reference pertaining to the LW is the two volume Davis book pertaining to LW uniforms and insignia. This reference (unless I missed something) did not get into much detail in the above questions.

Thanks again.

Warm regards

Paul

Edited November 28, 2005 by Paul Reck

[Guest Rick Research]

No propellers = Sonderf?hrer ranks?

[Garth Thompson]

The tabs without props or gulls are for wartime members of the various branches. They were designated a.K. or auf Kriegsdauer. Colors I've observed are Pink (engineers), Yellow (flight), Green (admin), burgandy (justice). Wreathes were either full for field grade or 1/2 for company grade. THere were 4 ranks as well as I can determine. 2nd Lt thru Major. Differant shoulder boards were worn. I've attached an example of the Flight branch tabs with two example boards.

Garth

[luftguy]

Hi Garth,

What is the difference between the tabs you show for Flying Leader Corps and the Oberstabsingenieur tabs?

I am also in the market for the wartime type of ingenieur tabs, please keep me in mind if you come across them.

Bill

[Garth Thompson]

Hi Garth,

What is the difference between the tabs you show for Flying Leader Corps and the Oberstabsingenieur tabs?

I am also in the market for the wartime type of ingenieur tabs, please keep me in mind if you come across them.

Bill

Bill,

The Flying Leader Corps tab has the golden yellow piping of flight vice the normal silver piping associated with Engineer Corps. The boards for the FLC are double colored pink underlay with a golden yellow secondary.

Garth

[Garth Thompson]

Garth,

I do have a question about these wreath only collar tabs. I have seen them in a green waffenfarbe as well. Are these the only two waffenfabe? What do the various colors mean in these tabs? (does pink still mean engineering and green still mean admin)

What is the difference in the actual roles played(between the engineers that wore the standard propeller/wreath tabs and the Sonderfuhrer(?) tabs without the propeller)?

I apologize for the questions, yet my only reference pertaining to the LW is the two volume Davis book pertaining to LW uniforms and insignia. This reference (unless I missed something) did not get into much detail in the above questions.

Thanks again.

Warm regards

Paul

Paul,

Observed color for the a.K. officers are pink, green, yellow and burgandy. I'm betting there are more we just haven't found them yet.

The actual roles played by regular officers and the a.K. are probably very similar but the a.K. officers were not career military just called up for the duration.

The best referance on the LW admin, specialists and the odder insignia is Angolias Uniforms and Traditions of the Luftwaffe vol II but it is very hard to find and expensive when you do.

Garth

[Paul R]

Paul,

Observed color for the a.K. officers are pink, green, yellow and burgandy. I'm betting there are more we just haven't found them yet.

The actual roles played by regular officers and the a.K. are probably very similar but the a.K. officers were not career military just called up for the duration.

The best referance on the LW admin, specialists and the odder insignia is Angolias Uniforms and Traditions of the Luftwaffe vol II but it is very hard to find and expensive when you do.

Garth

Garth,

Thank you for reply as it answered my questions perfectly. Am I correct in assuming that there was no reserve element of this area? Also, thank you for posting your flight and engineer examples. This is one area in my tab collection that has not even been addressed... yet.

Also, thank you for your pics!

I will definately have to find that Angolia series. On more than one occasion, my questions were answered with quotes from that reference! The funny thing is that I have the complete heer series(3 books), being a LW collector! Anyone up for a trade... ?

I cant wait to see your collection in mass sometime!

Regards

Paul

[luftguy]

I finally got a set of Hauptstabsingenieur.

[Laurence Strong]

Nice Bill. I have seen a set of red (flak) aK officers on e-bay once, though that could be reason to question it's originality!

[Hauptmann]

Hi Bill,

Outstanding presentation! I especially love the colors of the tabs in posts # 2 and 6 (my favorite of the two!)... stunning! Thanks so much for sharing!

Dan

[luftguy]

Dan,

Thanks for your comments. I am still looking for the general ranks though.

Bill

[luftguy]

Generalingenieur

[luftguy]

Reverse

[luftguy]

The gang is all here!

[Paul R]

Bill,

Now that is quality!! Thanks for sharing the family with us!!

I would love to find a set (or single) for OberstLt-Ing and Oberst-Ing

[luftguy]

Stabsingenieur d.R.

[luftguy]

Stabsingenieur d.R. (back)

[Laurence Strong]

Oh you dirty dog what a rare find that is with the rarer piping instead of the blue backing.

Edited November 11, 2006 by Laurence Strong

[luftguy]

Finally got a set of these! Ingenieur a.K.

Edited December 18, 2006 by luftguy

[Paul R]

Beautiful Bill!!! You dont have too many more to find!