Soviet Full Cavalier of the Order of Labor Glory

[slava1stclass]

To all:

Full Cavalier of the Order of Labor Glory M. N. Radkov. As a machine excavator operator, he was awarded all three classes for his contributions to building the Baikal-Amur Motorway.

Regards,

slava1stclass

[Christian Zulus]

Dear "slava1stclass",

many thanks for sharing that charming photograph with the old hero of the working class .

Igor offers now for a rather fair price (only USD 15,5k) a full Labour Cavalier set incl. all documents and 1cl issued at the 8th of august 1991 .

Best regards

Christian

[Bob]

Hi experts - thoughts on this?

[Bob]

Hi experts - thoughts on this?

[Christian Zulus]

Dear Bob,

Andrew presented that booklet already at the fake-thread:

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?s=&showtop...ost&p=85969

I also don't like the medal: The gold wash has a strange colour.

BTW: Gorbachev promoted to President of the CCCP at the 14th of march 1990 ....

Best regards

Christian

[Bob]

Thanks Christian - seems like this dealer only sales "highend" fakes then

[Christian Zulus]

Thanks Christian - seems like this dealer only sales "highend" fakes then

It's also my impression for years .

Best regards

Christian

[matteti]

It's also my impression for years .

Best regards

Christian

For my benefit and protection, which dealer do we speak about exactly?

I only know of one established dealer who already sold me an obvious fake and many people also had bad experiences with him. Other than that, the several other dealers I know are all good.

Thanks!

Edited December 19, 2007 by matteti

[Christian Zulus]

For my benefit and protection, which dealer do we speak about exactly?

I only know of one established dealer who already sold me an obvious fake and many people also had bad experiences with him. Other than that, the several other dealers I know are all good.

Thanks!

Dear Matteti,

I think, we are speaking about Kai Winkler's "Nordeheide-Versand" https://www.nordheideversand.de/ .

He offers "genuine" high-end items for a fraction of the current market price, i.e.: RB #6 for EUR 1.250,- or a Labour Glory 1cl for EUR 590,- .

Best regards

Christian

[matteti]

Dear Matteti,

I think, we are speaking about Kai Winkler's "Nordeheide-Versand" <a href="https://www.nordheideversand.de/" target="_blank">https://www.nordheideversand.de/</a> .

He offers "genuine" high-end items for a fraction of the current market price, i.e.: RB #6 for EUR 1.250,- or a Labour Glory 1cl for EUR 590,- .

Best regards

Christian

Thanks Christian.

Being on the other side of the Atlantic, I haven't done many purchases in Europe other than very cheap items where that was ok to take a small risk. I will check his site by curiority, but that kind of price would be ridiculous if the awards were real. Even though at my level, I cannot even afford to dream at night of such awards, I would believe an authentic RB # 6 would be worth at least 50,000 USD (if not 100,000) . And who would buy such rare awards without knowing for sure the provenance and without a reliable certificate of authenticity.

Speaking about the labour Glory 1cl, there was a guy in Italy making some nice copies by hand. He can engrave the serial number you want on it. Other than the cold enamel, they look pretty convincing.

Best regards

Edited December 20, 2007 by matteti

[matteti]

Thanks Christian.

Being on the other side of the Atlantic, I haven't done many purchases in Europe other than very cheap items where that was ok to take a small risk. I will check his site by curiority, but that kind of price would be ridiculous if the awards were real. Even though at my level, I cannot even afford to dream at night of such awards, I would believe an authentic RB # 6 would be worth at least 50,000 USD (if not 100,000) . And who would buy such rare awards without knowing for sure the provenance and without a reliable certificate of authenticity.

Speaking about the labour Glory 1cl, there was a guy in Italy making some nice copies by hand. He can engrave the serial number you want on it. Other than the cold enamel, they look pretty convincing.

Best regards

First time I see a dealer forcing people to accept a use policy and to register in order to have the right to see the items for sale!

[Bob]

http://coins-decorations.com/

this is the one I was referring to

[matteti]

http://coins-decorations.com/

this is the one I was referring to

Wow! Thanks Bob.

This site is full of obvious fake. And for some other, I am sure that a careful examination would reveal they are also fake. When you see that Title of Meritorious Pilot Badge sell for just 100$ more than a Navy Dagger (448$), you know something is really wrong.

[Ed_Haynes]

First time I see a dealer forcing people to accept a use policy and to register in order to have the right to see the items for sale!

That is to get around the legal issues of displaying swastikas.

[Bob]

Wow! Thanks Bob.

This site is full of obvious fake. And for some other, I am sure that a careful examination would reveal they are also fake. When you see that Title of Meritorious Pilot Badge sell for just 100$ more than a Navy Dagger (448$), you know something is really wrong.

You're right. I proposed a "send it for certification to Nota Bene and I'll pay the costs if it's real" solution to buying an item but that did not go down well... the seller issues his own certificate of authenticity though

[matteti]

the seller issues his own certificate of authenticity though

That tells everything.

But if you wanted to try, you could always ask for high quality pic and post them here (or on the other forum) and have experts to look at it. I know Alexei, Paul J. S. and Andrei Kuznetsov among others are very helpful in this way.

[Christian Zulus]

http://coins-decorations.com/

this is the one I was referring to

Dear Bob,

Kai Winkler offered the ident "genuine" orders, but much cheaper:

RB #6 s/n. 19 for EUR 1.250,- at "Nordheide-Versand"

RB #6 s/n. 19 for USD 8.500,- (already SOLD ) at "OrdersMedalsBadges"

BTW: I don't believe, that someone has purchased RB #6 s/n. 19 for that price .

Best regards

Christian

[paddywhack]

it does still amaze me how people still think that they can pick up a VERY rare award for a fraction of its real price of a dealer!! how pi$$ed would you be to find you just wasted 8.5k on a lump of crap!!!!!

[slava1stclass]

To all:

The second in our continuing series - Ivan Ivanovich Kravets. Like Gospodin Radkov in post # 1 above, he spent his entire working career as a road grader/machine excavator operator.

Regards,

slava1stclass

Edited March 10, 2008 by slava1stclass

[slava1stclass]

To all:

Yet another Full Cavalier (not to mention his nifty compatriot).

Regards,

slava1stclass

Edited March 12, 2008 by slava1stclass

[Ed_Haynes]

NICE images, thanks!

[slava1stclass]

To all:

It is nice to come across a different profession. Gospodin N. A. Mardanov was a commercial fisherman.

Regards,

slava1stclass

[slava1stclass]

To all:

Yet another unusual profession. A. G. Kortelev earned his Full Cavalier status as an "Elektroliznik" in an aluminum factory.

Regards,

slava1stclass

[Ulsterman]

Great pictures!

So, i am curious now. Who typically were the full cavaliers?

Also, is the third class faked these days?

[Ed_Haynes]

I'd like to understand better how the OLG series fit into the normal labor sequence DistLab => ValLab => BoH => RBL => HSL. How was the OLG series awarded? And to whom? This may require having research available. Not now, alas.