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    GERMAN WWI: unknown cross and dog tag


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    Hallo KDVR

    With regards the cross / medal, it is a commemorative piece, for service in a military veterans club,

    and not an official issue piece, depending on where, the veterans were located, (i.e. village, Dorf, Town etc..etc..)

    the state colours could be reflected in the ribbon colours.

    Is there anything to the rear??

    Kevin in Deva :beer:

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    Is there a name and birthdate/address on the back of the dog tag? There should be. This looks like a custom-made M1914 dogtag-- usually the two hole are on top not one on each side.

    The garrison town for Ersatz Bataillon LIR 126 was also Gm?nd.

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    Hallo Guys :cheers:

    With the cross at an angle, I made out the top line to be: W ? f t l,

    I did enter Gm?nd with Umlauten in my google search and those were

    some of the hits I got back!!

    If it is W?rttemberg then the ribbon colours could be Yellow and Black.

    http://www.weller.to/rub/gmuend/gmuend.htm

    Kevin in Deva :cheers:

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    If it is W?rttemberg then the ribbon colours could be Yellow and Black.

    The colours of W?rttemberg are red and black, just a few ribbons are yellow and black, as well as Baden-W?rttemberg's (modern state in southwest Germany since 1952) flag is. ;)

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    Hallo saschaw :beer:

    now, I am getting confused, :speechless: what were the normal State colours for W?rttemberg as depicted

    on the State buildings, say in the 1900's. I mean colours outside official military state medal orders awards.

    As an example Bavaria's colours were predominantly Blue and White for example.

    Kevin in Deva. :cheers:

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    Hallo saschaw, :beer:

    many thanks for the clarification, not being from Germany

    but having lived in Bavaria for 5 years, with the odd day-trip to

    the north-western neighboring states, I could not remember their colours :speechless:

    Kevin in Deva (Transylvania, whose colours are red on everything :P)

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    Hi Kevin in Deva,

    "As an example Bavaria's colours were predominantly Blue and White for example."

    No, absolutely not!

    He lived 5 years in Bavaria, and such a mistake :speechless1: .

    The colours were White and Blue :D .

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavaria

    The White-And-Blue Heart-Shaped Shield"

    And that is important for the Bavarians.

    The colours of Pomerania (Pommern) were Blue and White.

    Regards

    Uwe

    Sorry KDVR, no further information about the dog tag, but I think, it is not a dog tag for a person, I see no correspondence with contemporary pieces.

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    I agree I lived there for 5 years but as an Anglo-Irishman,

    the precedence of the colours never meant much to me :P

    Always reminded me of the Chelsea Football Club colours :lol:

    Kevin in Deva.

    Not sure what Transylvania's colours are, Red on everything??? :rolleyes:

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    Hi,

    It is an early tag, I have seen a number of these.

    Usually regiment and comany and company number.

    I assume the one pictured is the Ersatz Batln. of the Landwehr regiment.

    Whats missing is the individuals number.

    Here is an example for the RIR37 (Top right of the page)

    http://www.kaiserscross.com/60401/60643.html

    I believe these are known as the 1878 model

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