Yugoslavia Order of Military Merit with Grand Star

[Anatoly13]

Left one is ordinary order size 70 mm,

but other order size is 65 mm !!!

I'm very surprising

What do you think,gents?

[Anatoly13]

The reverse of smaller order is strange!

You can see 2 holes in 10 and 4 o'clock.

[Anatoly13]

I never see this type of hallmarks!

[wlodzimierz]

Great Anatoly,

you surprise us always.

Are both orders from Silver?

I looked yesterday at Order of National Merits and found out that there is hallmark which I couldn't identify.

This is the same hallmark on your image, bottom left. I've never seen these other hallmarks.

best regards

waldemar

[Anatoly13]

Waldemar!

Seems as silver and hallmark "925"...

Central part with wreath is the same like on 2-nd class!

When I took this order in my hands at first time I though that this is fake star with original central part from 2-nd cl!

But who wants and need to do that? And why?

[Bryan]

Interesting variations!

Both are 6 torches order. Do you have any 5 torches order of Military Merit 1st Class?

[Anatoly13]

Of course,Bryan I have order of Military Merit 1st Class with 5 torches.

[wlodzimierz]

Anatoly could you post reverse of both orders?

Can we see difference there?

best regards

waldemar

[Anatoly13]

As we know :

1st Class

-Silver, 5 torches

-Silver, 6 torches

-Tombac, 6 torches

This is mine orders.I missed 6 torches in silver so I bought last one.

I need another now.

[Anatoly13]

Reverses

[Bryan]

Wow! Thanks Anatoly!

[eatmeat]

Hello all, 

 

A friend remind me of these topic. Few weeks ago I got the same type. Order for military merit 1st class with 6 torches.

It has the same features, 2 holes in 10 and 4 position. And the same 3 stamps (just in different order )

I have never seen stemps "K" or stamp "925" for silver on any of Yugoslav orders

 

Order measures are:

Star: 66.9mm other 1st classes (5 torches) I have are 69-70mm

Torch: 44,7mm other 1st classes (5 torches) I have are 45,3-45,6mm

Sword: 45,6mm other 1st classes (5 torches) I have are 45,5-45,7mm

weight: 61,5g  other 1st classes (5 torches) I have are 74,5-76,2g

 

Does anybody know more about these type of order or these stamps?

At the look of it it does not appear to be a copy, if it is a copy why put so much trouble into stamps and all the details just to make it 20% lighter and 5% smaller?

 

 

[Daffy Duck]

Those marks are definitely not Yugoslav...

[El Ninja]

The K mark is known to be used by Teodor Krivak, a medal maker which has made a number of other high ranking Yugoslavian orders. They are very rare, but are known to exist. Apart from this one,I have also seen Order of brotherhood and unity first class with this same mark. As well as some other, but i cannot remember of the top of my head. Would have to dig a bit through my archive.