Christophe Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 (edited) Part 3.Hope this helps.Ch.Pic : "History of the Russian State in Awards and Badges" by Nicolai Gladkov. Vol 2. (2004). Edited January 15, 2006 by Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudeman Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Hi Dudeman,I'm unable (no knowledge enough...) to state on these points. But, I have a book including a small chapter on this subject : "History of the Russian State in Awards and Badges" by Nicolai Gladkov (2004). These badges are covered in the Volume 2, dedicated to Soviet Union. And it shows a Naval version of the ribbon / badge.This book is in Russian. My Russian is not good enough to allow a correct translation.Maybe a Russian speaking Member could help in summarizing what is said, and whether the way this point is dealt in this book could help or not ?Cheers.Ch.Pic : "History of the Russian State in Awards and Badges" by Nicolai Gladkov. Vol 2. (2004).There is nothing shedding light on the issue in the excerpts you posted. They tell of the establishment of the Guards title, distinguishing title for individuals, and the description of the distinguishing insignia for Ground Forces and Naval personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 brass like material! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 There is nothing shedding light on the issue in the excerpts you posted. They tell of the establishment of the Guards title, distinguishing title for individuals, and the description of the distinguishing insignia for Ground Forces and Naval personnel.OK . Looking at the pictures, I thought this book could be of help...Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 This doesn't really apply to this thread, but in an effort to break the spiral of debating the finer points of Guards colors, here's a neat badge from my collection. Note the green verdigris down on the bottom of the badge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Now why did I say to note that? Take a look at this photo. Note the same verdigris... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Now here's the photo of the original owner! This fellow was Lt Colonel Tolkachev. I love this photo of him, dated 1990. This is one of those groups that I'll go to the grave with. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 The reverse of the photo. I almost tear up every time I read this and think about it. Here he is, a "war hero" and proud grandfather... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Here's Colonel Tolkachev in Vienna in 1946, presumably wearing the same Guards badge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 One last photo (I have to resist the temptation to scan all of them!) Here he is in the middle of the photo at an awards ceremony in Germany, dated 1947... good chance he's wearing the same Guards badge as in the first scan... Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 Thanks Christophe! Dave,Awesome grouping! I have never seen another like it! What are the odds... very same badge along with a photo of it in wear 60 years earlier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 Something else interesting... I have never before seen a Soviet tunic with parade bars!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuliganRS Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 I just bought a Parade Uniform...Will post pics later this week once it arrives...Rusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 I look forward to seeing the pics!!!Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Dienna Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 What does it say on the reverse of the photo???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuliganRS Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 It says:For rememberance,Oleg, Lena, Ulianke from grandfather, Lt Colonel Aleksander ...Xarkov, March 1990 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuliganRS Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Here's the uniform pic from the seller: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 That is an awesome uniform!!! Thanks for the pic! What are these parade tunics going for these days? I bet they are very highly priced!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuliganRS Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 I got a great deal on this one!I bought it directly from Doug Drebik for about $500I also just bought a rare Naval-Technical Service tunic for an Officer will post pics when I get that one...Rusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 Nice one Rusty!!! How long were they using the parade bars? I can hardly wait to see the Naval one!Thank you for sharing it with us!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuliganRS Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 These were used up untill 1954, when new regs came out.Rusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 Here is a family shot of my three... including the new arrival!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 back...I am looking to get one from each of the Communist nations(or even post communist versions) that had them. I know only of the new Federal Russian version that is currently in use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudeman Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 back...I am looking to get one from each of the Communist nations(or even post communist versions) that had them. I know only of the new Federal Russian version that is currently in use.If you are talking about badges currently in use, you would have to add Belarus (which you have) and Cuba (which you have) to the Russian Federation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted January 27, 2006 Author Share Posted January 27, 2006 I need a Russian Federation version!!! Have you seen one of these on Ebay lately?Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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