China Nationalist Chinese "Yoon Gui" Order Commander Grade 1947 ?

[Guest Rick Research]

Could anyone hazard a guess what THIS

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?s=&showtop...st&p=263655

from a Soviet award authorization ( !!!) actually was?

[Ed_Haynes]

Again, we have to remember that the CCCP was never very friendly with Mao and the CCP. Their sympathies lay with the Guomintang (Chiang and his boys as "allies" in the GPW). It ws only after their victory in the civil war that the CCCP rather reluctantly (and never very fully) recognised their deviant Chinese "brothers". The myth on monolithic communism and a Chinese-Soviet friendship was (despite the medal) another cold war concoction. Remember that the Soviets gleefully plundered the factories in the only industrialised part of China (Manchuria) to rebuild their war-devestated industries and yanked their technical (civilian) advisors out in 1960 (burning blueprints and operating manuals as they left), leaving the Chinese to structure their own "Great Leap Forward".

[Guest Rick Research]

Got LOTS of PRC-to be 1945+ awards to Soviet military personnel wearing Mao's uniforms (that's where ALL of my PRC Civil War/Korean War awards are from ) but this is the very first ever indication that the collapsing Nationalist regime decorated the sponsors of their dwindling fortunes.

[Ed_Haynes]

But this forced friendship was in the context of the liberation of Korea and for an earlier uncomfortable period after the GPW but before the liberation of China when it was clear to everyone (except Chiang and Truman?) how the civil war would turn out. It was an uncomfortable and rocky friendship, where neither trusted the other.

[Bob]

bumped up... anybody new joined the forum with lots of knowledge on Chinese awards? :unsure:

[Chris Boonzaier]

bumped up... anybody new joined the forum with lots of knowledge on Chinese awards?

Yes... the answer to the question above is.... 注音符號... ;-)

[Bob]

Yes... the answer to the question above is.... 注音符號... ;-)

:cheers:

[JBFloyd]

Perhaps some tansliteration problems from Chinese to Russian to English, but maybe what is commonly transliterated as "Yun-Hui" in US paperword (Order of the Cloud and Banner).

[Bob]

Perhaps some tansliteration problems from Chinese to Russian to English, but maybe what is commonly transliterated as "Yun-Hui" in US paperword (Order of the Cloud and Banner).

Thanks - i'm confused though, what does "in US paperword (Order of the Cloud and Banner)." mean?

[JBFloyd]

"Yun-Hui" = Order of the Cloud and Banner.

"Yun-Hui" is the transliteration most commonly used in US paperwork relating to such an award. To transliterate the award name through Russian could easily bring up "Yoon Gui" or several similar sounding names.

[Guest Rick Research]

Ahhh!!!! One of many of life's mysteries solved at least! MANY THANKS!!!!! :cheers:

[Bob]

"Yun-Hui" = Order of the Cloud and Banner.

"Yun-Hui" is the transliteration most commonly used in US paperwork relating to such an award. To transliterate the award name through Russian could easily bring up "Yoon Gui" or several similar sounding names.

Excellent - thank you so much

Indeed, one little mystery solved Now to google what an Order of the Cloud and Banner actually looks like :jumping:

[Bob]

Voila http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Cloud_and_Banner

So, 9 grades... that narrows it down:)

http://www.omsa.org/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=5911

Edited May 3, 2009 by Bob