Guest Rick Research Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Could anyone hazard a guess what THIShttp://gmic.co.uk/index.php?s=&showtop...st&p=263655from a Soviet award authorization ( !!!) actually was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Again, we have to remember that the CCCP was never very friendly with Mao and the CCP. Their sympathies lay with the Guomintang (Chiang and his boys as "allies" in the GPW). It ws only after their victory in the civil war that the CCCP rather reluctantly (and never very fully) recognised their deviant Chinese "brothers". The myth on monolithic communism and a Chinese-Soviet friendship was (despite the medal) another cold war concoction. Remember that the Soviets gleefully plundered the factories in the only industrialised part of China (Manchuria) to rebuild their war-devestated industries and yanked their technical (civilian) advisors out in 1960 (burning blueprints and operating manuals as they left), leaving the Chinese to structure their own "Great Leap Forward". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Got LOTS of PRC-to be 1945+ awards to Soviet military personnel wearing Mao's uniforms (that's where ALL of my PRC Civil War/Korean War awards are from ) but this is the very first ever indication that the collapsing Nationalist regime decorated the sponsors of their dwindling fortunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 But this forced friendship was in the context of the liberation of Korea and for an earlier uncomfortable period after the GPW but before the liberation of China when it was clear to everyone (except Chiang and Truman?) how the civil war would turn out. It was an uncomfortable and rocky friendship, where neither trusted the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 bumped up... anybody new joined the forum with lots of knowledge on Chinese awards? :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 bumped up... anybody new joined the forum with lots of knowledge on Chinese awards? Yes... the answer to the question above is.... 注音符號... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Yes... the answer to the question above is.... 注音符號... ;-) :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFloyd Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Perhaps some tansliteration problems from Chinese to Russian to English, but maybe what is commonly transliterated as "Yun-Hui" in US paperword (Order of the Cloud and Banner). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Perhaps some tansliteration problems from Chinese to Russian to English, but maybe what is commonly transliterated as "Yun-Hui" in US paperword (Order of the Cloud and Banner).Thanks - i'm confused though, what does "in US paperword (Order of the Cloud and Banner)." mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFloyd Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 "Yun-Hui" = Order of the Cloud and Banner."Yun-Hui" is the transliteration most commonly used in US paperwork relating to such an award. To transliterate the award name through Russian could easily bring up "Yoon Gui" or several similar sounding names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Ahhh!!!! One of many of life's mysteries solved at least! MANY THANKS!!!!! :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 "Yun-Hui" = Order of the Cloud and Banner."Yun-Hui" is the transliteration most commonly used in US paperwork relating to such an award. To transliterate the award name through Russian could easily bring up "Yoon Gui" or several similar sounding names.Excellent - thank you so much Indeed, one little mystery solved Now to google what an Order of the Cloud and Banner actually looks like :jumping: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 (edited) Voila http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Cloud_and_BannerSo, 9 grades... that narrows it down:)http://www.omsa.org/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=5911 Edited May 3, 2009 by Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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