Stogieman Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 One of the really interesting (and occassionally maddening) points to consider when broaching this subject is that the pentangle suspension for these awards remains consistent irrespective of the branch of service. Observed variation only occurs for the drop, or pendant. Armed Forces, Ministry of Interior (including KDS, Police, Fire, Border Guards, etc.), Construction Troops/Labor Corps have been observed. Furthermore, the coat of arms for Bulgaria changes so each variation comes in two types!How about we see how many variations we can come up with!?I'll start us off with a complete documented set of Labor/Construction Corps Medals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted June 12, 2008 Author Share Posted June 12, 2008 the document: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted June 12, 2008 Author Share Posted June 12, 2008 Cover of document and reverse view of medals showing post-1971 COA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted June 12, 2008 Author Share Posted June 12, 2008 OK, one more try.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 :jumping: Great set Rick, I especially like the doc with all threee classes in it ! I havent seen any boxes for theese medals , maybe they where to "common" to have there own box? Here my examples of Construction Corps with the earlier crest before 1971, I realized that I only have 1st and 2nd class So now I have the hunt for a third class medal and some docs..... The third class was for 10 years , 2nd = 15 years and 3rd = 20 years I think thats the same for all types. Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 And then of course there is the ordinary soldiers long service : For Army Personal Here is 1st, 2nd and 3rd class Front Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 And the backs with the crest post 1971 This is a real collectors challenge to get all the varations I still have some more to go ! Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 And the early ones with the old crest < 1971 Puh , and then all the docs..... I have a lot of hunting to do ? Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 (edited) And here is the other type of Long service medals : To save time and space I show all 4 ! in one pic Theese are for the personel working for the Ministery of Interior Hmm, Police, Firebrigade and Secret Police of course.... KDS This is 2nd class of 4 different types look all the same dosn?t they? FRONT Edited July 4, 2008 by christerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 (edited) But on the backside the differences appear ! First out is the two different state crests Before 1971 and after Christer Edited July 4, 2008 by christerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 And the two rare types at last , I only have one KDS, thats why I choiced to show you 2nd class medals.... The firebrigade version had the MVR on the bottom erased and its quite scarce but the last type with the letters KDS is even more scarce ! And if anyone have a box for a KDS version I would really like to see it (or a document) Now I am going out in the sun, its almost 30 C here in Sweden now som Iam boiled sitting inside with a hot computer Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Let's see if I understand this correctly. All these medals were created between 1959 and 1965 for the various different services?But KDS ceased using these initials in 1969, before the change to new state crest reverse in 1971? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Hi Rick !Lets see now : 1: Army Long Service 18th July 1959 2 different issues 1959-1971 and 1971-1991 2: For the Ministry of Interior personel, 27th August 1960 2 issues 1960-1971 and 1971 -1991 ( + Firemen 1960-1971 only first issue without MVR) 3: Ministery of Interior KDS late 1964 1 issue 1964-1969 4: Construction Corps June 1969 2 issues 1969-1971, (just two years) and 1971-1991 And I just realized that I missed one type completly Nr 2: The Ministery of Interior first issue with old state crest has TWO issues maybe 2a= old crest MVR 2b= old crest M.V.R 2c= Firemen without MVR 2d= new crest Here is pic of the two different issues of the 2a and 2b I hope I didn?t mess it up now.... Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 And here is my two boxes, both was delivered from seller with type 2b medals if I may call them so. Ministery of Interior old crest without dots in MVR. There is no crest on the box, but they do look old. I think there is a lot to learn about theese LS medals Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted July 4, 2008 Author Share Posted July 4, 2008 I've seen titled cases for ministry of interior. I have not seen a titled case for any others. As an interesting aside.... Cuba did the same thing. Ministry of interior rated titled cases, even if they were plastic. Everybody else got a plain plastic case that looks like it comes out of a gumball machine....So..... what does that tell you about the "status" of these employees vs. other state employees? So much for a classless society, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 I did not realize that there WAS a Type 2b.So at today's show... I found one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Would not even have noticed if you hadn't pointed the difference out, Christer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Hi, everyone.Absolutely right information about KDS, army and construction troops. What concern Ministry of Interior personel. There was 3 types and 1 additional variant of 1 type. Please look at pictures:1 type Variant 1 - old coat+MBR with dots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Type 1, Variant 2 - Old coat, MBR with out dots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Type 2. New coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Type 3. Award to the members of fire brigades.....Erased letters MVR on the reverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Some types of documents to the awards of Interior ministry...... :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 (edited) And the most rare service medals - KDS. The most interesting is that the most rare from them is 10 years service. There is version that only this medal was awarded to recepients. And after that (15, 20 years i mean) the members of KDS received medals for the MVR. Thats way this medal exist only with old coat. It was some kind of masking for the peoples who served in KDS. Thats way on the market exist some amount of non-awarded items for 15 and 20 years in KDS and so small amount of 10 years service..... :cheers: Edited July 7, 2008 by bolgarin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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