Eric Stahlhut Posted July 5, 2008 Posted July 5, 2008 i think the sleeve insignia is for former soldiers who served in southwest africa during ww1
Guest Rick Research Posted July 5, 2008 Posted July 5, 2008 :Cat-Scratch: That is a VERY rare photo showing the sleeve insignia "Kreuz des S?dens" worn as a tradition insignia commemorating former police units from Cameroon, China, East Africa, the south Pacific islands, and Southwest Africa. This Oberwachtmeister is wearing the old Weimar era uniform, so pre-1936. He is wearing the SA Sports Badge, so 1933+.If there is anything written on it, it may be possible to tell exactly where his precise unit was. I don't have the list of which Police units wore this sleeve insignia, but I believe it exists and the Polizei experts here can help you more. If I remember, one unit was at a school, and the others were specific "Hundertschaften" scattered around Germany. Personnel were NOT veterans of the old Imperial colonial police themselves.Terrific photo. :cheers:
nesredep Posted July 5, 2008 Author Posted July 5, 2008 i think the sleeve insignia is for former soldiers who served in southwest africa during ww1Hello!Thank You for quick help. :jumping: All the best Nesredep
nesredep Posted July 5, 2008 Author Posted July 5, 2008 That is a VERY rare photo showing the sleeve insignia "Kreuz des S?dens" worn as a tradition insignia commemorating former police units from Cameroon, China, East Africa, the south Pacific islands, and Southwest Africa. This Oberwachtmeister is wearing the old Weimar era uniform, so pre-1936. He is wearing the SA Sports Badge, so 1933+.If there is anything written on it, it may be possible to tell exactly where his precise unit was. I don't have the list of which Police units wore this sleeve insignia, but I believe it exists and the Polizei experts here can help you more. If I remember, one unit was at a school, and the others were specific "Hundertschaften" scattered around Germany. Personnel were NOT veterans of the old Imperial colonial police themselves.Terrific photo. Hello!RickThank You for very good help.I wil try to take a Photo of the back.All the best Nesredep
nesredep Posted July 5, 2008 Author Posted July 5, 2008 Hello!RickThis is back of the Photo.All the best Nesredep
nesredep Posted July 6, 2008 Author Posted July 6, 2008 Sweet find Hello!Thank You for kind comment. :jumping: All the best Nesredep
David S Posted July 7, 2008 Posted July 7, 2008 I knew I'd seen that patch before . . . but where?Of course !!! Uniforms, Organization & History of the German Police by J Angolia and HP TaylorFrom the book-At a ceremony held on 29 May 1934 at the main officer's training school in Berlin-Lichterfeldethe traditional insignia of the polie troop of German East Africa was bestowed on the men of1. Hundertschaft/LPG "General Goring." This was the "Southern Cross", worn as a clothbadge on the lower left sleeve.Hope it helps
nesredep Posted July 7, 2008 Author Posted July 7, 2008 I knew I'd seen that patch before . . . but where?Of course !!! Uniforms, Organization & History of the German Police by J Angolia and HP TaylorFrom the book-At a ceremony held on 29 May 1934 at the main officer's training school in Berlin-Lichterfeldethe traditional insignia of the polie troop of German East Africa was bestowed on the men of1. Hundertschaft/LPG "General Goring." This was the "Southern Cross", worn as a clothbadge on the lower left sleeve.Hope it helpsHello!Yes this help me.Thanks for good help. :jumping: All the best Nesredep
slava1stclass Posted July 7, 2008 Posted July 7, 2008 This is back of the Photo.All the best NesredepTo all; It reads:Photo MummKiel, Wilhelminenstr. 11Ecke BergstrasseRegards,slava1stclass
nesredep Posted July 8, 2008 Author Posted July 8, 2008 To all; It reads:Photo MummKiel, Wilhelminenstr. 11Ecke BergstrasseRegards,slava1stclassHello!Thank You. :jumping: All the best Nesredep
Odulf Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 Here's another. The Schupo badge on the left sleeve is for Berlin. Dieter Deutsche, in his book Deutsche Polizei-Uniformen 1936-1945 (1st edition 1990), explains that the badge was also worn by: Nov. 1938: Schupo Kiel, Hamburg, Bremen, Schupo-Reitstaffel Berlin, Juni 1939: Schupo-Hunderschaft Stuttgart, Nov. 1942: das Stammpersonal der Polizeichule für Auslandsverwendung Oranienburg, III. Bataillon des Polizei-Regiments 5 From Juli 1943 the badge could be worn by personnel of the Orpo who had served in the German colonies, with the Schutzrtruppe or the Landespolizei. In it was no longer allowed to wear the badge.
Chris Boonzaier Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 Well, the top one is pretty good looking... maybe she is not really his wife?
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