dante Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 (edited) Just traded this for a British WW1 medal group (?75), I am sure that the medals do not come with....but very tight fit, however its purported to have been together since being picked up in Germany by a Brit in 1945....as ever welcome your thoughts Edited August 16, 2008 by dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante Posted August 16, 2008 Author Share Posted August 16, 2008 Just traded this for a British WW1 medal group (?75), I am sure that the medals do not come with....however its purported to have been together since being picked up in Germany by a Brit in 1945....as ever welcome your thoughts2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dante Posted August 16, 2008 Author Share Posted August 16, 2008 (edited) 5Steel EKI looks like pin replaced , pin maker marked "5" (Hermann Wernstein from Jena-L?bstadt) Edited August 17, 2008 by dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Rick Research Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Ah those old aristocratic families...the fitted case certainly looks like it was meant for those.So:TWO suspects, as the ONLY non-regulars as of 1914.They weren't "von Blombegs"...they were FREIHERRN von BlombergsRittmeister der Reserve (in 1914 living in Detmold, Lippe) Freiherr von Blomberg (whose first name MAY have been Moritz, with estate in nearby Iggenhausen, Westphalia) who already had an LD1-- in K?rassier Regiment 4orStabsarzt der Reserve Dr. Freiherr von Blomberg, LD1 holder, resident in Landwehrbezirk Kosten, Vth Army Corps area in 1914.My bet would be on the old cavalry Captain. Perfect geography for 1945 souveniring.Complex titled noblemen often shortened their names-- after all HE knew who he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante Posted August 16, 2008 Author Share Posted August 16, 2008 Rick, outstanding.....I understand K?rassier officers favoured steel EK1s on their K?rass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Did you say you traded this for 75 pounds? I hope I read that wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante Posted August 17, 2008 Author Share Posted August 17, 2008 Did you say you traded this for 75 pounds? I hope I read that wrong.I traded a Brit group for it that cost me about that albeit a few years ago for it yestaday.........on the basis that group was ok.....but nothing special and the EK1 and wound had been added........he collects Brit and I try to collect Imperial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I understand K?rassier officers favoured steel EK1s on their K?rassI've heard similar things about K?rassiers favoring certain types of EK1's (for example, the ones with two or four small screw backs on the reverse side) that were or could be worn on their breast plates. Call me a sceptic about the stories being real.Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Okay, thanks for the clarification. I really like this ensemble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Rittmeister der Reserve (in 1914 living in Detmold, Lippe) Freiherr von Blomberg (whose first name MAY have been Moritz, with estate in nearby Iggenhausen, Westphalia) who already had an LD1-- in K?rassier Regiment 4orStabsarzt der Reserve Dr. Freiherr von Blomberg, LD1 holder, resident in Landwehrbezirk Kosten, Vth Army Corps area in 1914.Rick,I can confirm that the Rittmeister was Moritz Friedrich Wilhelm Julius Frhr. v. Blomberg and the Stabsarzt was Karl Gotthardt Eberhard Frhr. v. Blomberg. Karl Frhr. v. Blomberg was promoted to Oberstabsarzt d.R. on 28.11.14 whilst serving with Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 58.RegardsGlenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Glenn-- have you got anything birth/death related? I've had no luck turning either up. Obviously the Prime Suspect would have had to be alive in 1934/35.Baron Moritz ( ) wouldn't have gotten anything from Lippe since he was not in an affliated unit and his nearest-District Command norminal reporting office would not have been enough of a connection, especially if he never served anywhere within VIIth Army Corps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 If anyone could add to this most excellent research by Rick & Glenn I would welcome it..as ever many thanks, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arb Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) I can add this Andy Name Rang Regiment Rittm Oblt Leutn Geb geboren gestoren Gest Blomberg, Moritz Frhr. von Rittm. d.R. KR 4 20.11.1913 27.01.1906 18.10.1895 19.12.1870 Detmold Iggenhausen 01.04.1940 He transferred to the reserve of KR 4 from Landw. Kav. I Aufg. on 20.11.1913. He was a Rittergutsbesitzer, Iggenhausen b. Lage (Lippe) Edited June 5, 2018 by arb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Danner Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 It would appear that it is neither of the two Blombergs identified above. Moritz Frhr.v. Blomberg, *19.12.1870 in Detmold, †1.4.1940 auf Iggenhausen, received the Lippe Kriegsverdienstkreuz on 4.2.1915 and acknowledged receipt of the cross by an Empfang dated 22.2.1915. He wasn't in a Lippe-connected formation, as Rick had noted above, but he was born in Lippe's capital and his father had been a Fürstlich lippischer Kammerdirektor and Kammerherr. Dr. Karl Frhr.v. Blomberg was born on 24.6.1860 in Berlin and died on 21.6.1930 in Weimar. He was a Sanitätsrat and Direktor of the Provinzial Irren- und Idiotenanstalt in Kosten. He was a Rechtsritter of the Johanniterorden. Since he died in 1930, he would not have had the Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer unless the family mounted it posthumously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 Ha....so back to the beginning.......help !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante Posted July 3, 2023 Author Share Posted July 3, 2023 It’s a few years ago since I posted this, wondering if anyone has any thoughts or suggestions as to who our Von Blomberg maybe? many thanks, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Cannot add anything to the provenience, unfortunately, but... On 16/08/2008 at 19:02, dante said: Steel EKI looks like pin replaced , pin maker marked "5" (Hermann Wernstein from Jena-Löbstadt) ... this is not a Wernstein made cross! The marking "5" on this WW1 era cross could be anything, but not a 1940s PKZ marking. Probably just some control mark to attribute the cross to a specific worker within the factory, or to a specific batch of production. I guess that's still debated. Also, the bar - especially its backing - does not look like 1930s to me. Rather 1950s or 1960s? I have similar groups that contain World War 2 era awards in the de-nazified BRD/FRG design. Are you sure this group was "captured" in 1945, and not possibly obtained some years later? Please, don't get me wrong: I'm not saying (or implying) it's fake! Maybe just a bit younger than we assumed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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