Elmar Lang Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 Hello,in these days I'm describing a collection of Orders & Decorations from the former Socialist Countries: of course, Yugoslavia is very well represented.Among the various pieces, there is one I've already seen, but I cannot remember what would it be: it's a silver-gilt 4-pointed star (6,2 x 6,2 cm.) with a superimposed centre medallion in silver, representing a partizan (?) within a laurel wreath, armed with dagger and bandoleers, holding a flag on a background of attacking men and women; below, a scroll with the (cyrillic) inscription "IDIN DEN 1903" the reverse is plain, struck with a serial (or award) number "102", scew and nut (this, marked "IKOM ZAGREB").Any help would be most appreciated.Thank you in advance,Elmar Lang
Mister No Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 ILINDENSKA SPOMENICA from Makedonija. Instituted 19. 6. 1950. Only 2500 pieces.
Elmar Lang Posted September 1, 2008 Author Posted September 1, 2008 Thank you very much!Enzo (Elmar Lang)
Ed_Haynes Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 Thanks for the image! But what is it? Speaking for myself, knowing it is a "ILINDENSKA SPOMENICA" tells me nothing.
Explorer Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 The highest Macedonian award, something like Yugoslav Order of National Hero.
Elmar Lang Posted September 1, 2008 Author Posted September 1, 2008 Oh, I see I've wrongly transliterated the motto: I've written "IDIN DEN 1903", but it should have been correctly written "ILIN DEN 1903".The piece I've observed, bears the number "102"; there are no silver or manufacteurer's marks, besides the "IKOM ZAGREB on the screw's nut.Thank you again for the further, important information,Best wishes,Enzo
Anatoly13 Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 The highest Macedonian award, something like Yugoslav Order of National Hero. This is one of the veteran's award from SFRY. Is founded in 1950 for rewarding of the survived participants of the battle at Ilinden in 1903.Made from silver. IKOM.2500 awarded.
Explorer Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 This is one of the veteran's award from SFRY. Is founded in 1950 for rewarding of the survived participants of the battle at Ilinden in 1903.Made from silver. IKOM.2500 awarded.That is true but what I'm saying is that it is the biggest award of Macedonian nation. In Macedonia it had a status like National hero or Partisan spomenica 1941...
Ed_Haynes Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 What "Macedonian nation" (= "Macedonian State"?) are we talking about?
Elmar Lang Posted September 1, 2008 Author Posted September 1, 2008 I think that our colleagues are talking about the former Socialist Federative Republic of Makedonia, once part of Tito's Jugoslavia.Best wishes,Enzo
Ed_Haynes Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 (edited) I think that our colleagues are talking about the former Socialist Federative Republic of Makedonia, once part of Tito's Jugoslavia.Best wishes,EnzoYes, Enzo, that was my thought too. To what degree were the Yugoslav provinces allowed to create their own, parallel, awards? Most States take a dim view of this sort of thing. Edited September 1, 2008 by Ed_Haynes
Elmar Lang Posted September 1, 2008 Author Posted September 1, 2008 Actually, I would like to know more about this aspect of Jugoslavian phaleristic: if the federative republics would have been allowed to award their own decorations; in other words, if there existed "Federal" and "Federative" awards.Where the work of cataloguing for auction ends, my cultural research and study continues...Best wishes,Enzo
Mister No Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 I think that is only one award from federative republics. I dont now for second federative award.Regards :cheers:
orden_master Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 The Ilinden commemorative has indeed been the only medal issued by one of the six Republics building the Yugosalvian confederation. The medal was issued to the living participants of the famous Ilinden uprising 1903 agianst the Turks, and there were approx. 2500 item distributed. The bearers had many advantages like a full and free medical treatment in military hospital, evry year a one month free vacation in Macedonian Republic holliday resorts, 50% rabate on any public transportation and funerals on state costs. Those advantages have not been transferable on other persons or family members.regardsMilanActually, I would like to know more about this aspect of Jugoslavian phaleristic: if the federative republics would have been allowed to award their own decorations; in other words, if there existed "Federal" and "Federative" awards.Where the work of cataloguing for auction ends, my cultural research and study continues...Best wishes,Enzo
ilievski Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 Hi Enzo , This is a very rare item you have indeed . Established in the 50s in Yugoslavia to recognize the Macedonian National Liberation in 1903 . There is a new redesigned http://www.president.gov.mk/odlikuvanja_e.asp Order of Ilinden established in 2002 by the new Macedonian State . My great Grandfather was decorated with this in the 50s since he took part in the uprising as a young man . There was one for sale on ebay a few days ago that went for 260$ and currently only one for sale at www.singidunum-online.com RegardsIgor
SasaYU Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 Hi Enzo , This is a very rare item you have indeed . Established in the 50s in Yugoslavia to recognize the Macedonian National Liberation in 1903 . There is a new redesigned http://www.president.gov.mk/odlikuvanja_e.asp Order of Ilinden established in 2002 by the new Macedonian State . My great Grandfather was decorated with this in the 50s since he took part in the uprising as a young man . There was one for sale on ebay a few days ago that went for 260$ and currently only one for sale at www.singidunum-online.com RegardsIgorIgore, thank you for your update on information on this rare decoration.Mnogu pozdravi do tebe i do dedo ti.
Anatoly13 Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 Another rare type of this award.Infos from the seller:MADE ONLY FOR GUESTS ON COMMEMORATIVE CELEBRATION.Who can confirm that? Or....
Mister No Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 It is not same order? Made frome silver, IKOM and serial number.
Valter Posted November 11, 2008 Posted November 11, 2008 One remark about federal/federative status of Ilinden badge: this was considered as federal decoration, but due to the fact Ilinden uprising was held by Macedonians, it was awarded only (or mostly) to Macedonians. It has probably the same rank as partisan's commemorative badge 1941, but it's much rarer.And there were plenty of "federative" awards, instututed and awarded only by certain federal republics, i.e. red cross, police (militia), firefighter's, hunter's and many other tipes of decorations. And there were even more non-portable awards (plaques etc.) instituted on republical level, but also by local communities, veteran's associations, enterprises etc. Tons of phaleristic material which is mostly unpublished and only sparingly researched.
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