landsknechte Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 (edited) Finally found a halfway decent photograph of the Hessian Red Cross medal that I was thinking of. It has 1914 on it, so I suppose that question is answered at least.Knowing my luck, there's probably a decoration or two on here that's being represented by a "close enough" expediency. Edited December 1, 2005 by landsknechte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRBeery Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 I owe you a better picture than this but this is all I have right now. I will have to open the vault. I remember this as being more pink than red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landsknechte Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 I owe you a better picture than this but this is all I have right now. I will have to open the vault. I remember this as being more pink than red.What decoration is that? This is the one that I was thinking of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRBeery Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Actually it is kind of a mystery to me. I have only found one other for sale and it was described as a Hessian award and was on the same ribbon as I show. I do not know if I saved the other picture or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 It tends more into the realm of red/shocking pink side.........The cross is the Hessian Milit?r=Sanit?ts=Kreuz...The Medal is the Hessian Ehrenzeichen f?r Kriegsf?rsorge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 PS: The cross was made 1870/71, 1876, there's a bar for 1914..... then remade 1914, 1914-17, 1917Good luck catching all the date variations! ;>) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landsknechte Posted December 2, 2005 Author Share Posted December 2, 2005 PS: The cross was made 1870/71, 1876, there's a bar for 1914..... then remade 1914, 1914-17, 1917Good luck catching all the date variations! ;>)At least that leaves the "order of received" theory intact should that be what's represented.Thanks,--Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 On eBay right now: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landsknechte Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 Stumbled across these this evening on Huesken's website:"SILBERNE ERINNERUNGSMEDAILLE 1909" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landsknechte Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 ....and a "BRONZENE ERINNERUNGSMEDAILLE 1909"(Which only apparently exists in very small photographs.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 And he scores scores SCORES!!!!!! Still can't explain any of it, but the ORANGE edges and proportions on that are an EXACT match, and since the entire bar x2 is screwy, why not? Luxemburg, Holland....My best guess had been the old M1825-1913 Prussian XXI Years Service Brooch, but the edges on your 1909 are definitely a match, while a yellow edged XXI was just nearest seeming rationally possible.Once we simply discard "possible" things for what is actually ON these two Freaky Bars... Give yourself a second notch for identification of bizarre ribbons!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landsknechte Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 And he scores scores SCORES!!!!!! Still can't explain any of it, but the ORANGE edges and proportions on that are an EXACT match, and since the entire bar x2 is screwy, why not? Luxemburg, Holland....My best guess had been the old M1825-1913 Prussian XXI Years Service Brooch, but the edges on your 1909 are definitely a match, while a yellow edged XXI was just nearest seeming rationally possible.Once we simply discard "possible" things for what is actually ON these two Freaky Bars... Give yourself a second notch for identification of bizarre ribbons!!!! ...and it gets weirder. There's another one out there. These were given out by Adolph of Nassau until 1866 as an official state decoration of Nassau, and until 1890 as a decoration "from exile", and then from 1890 onwards as an official decoration of Luxemburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landsknechte Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 Apparently Nassau was one of those states with as much creativity in ribbon design as Oldenburg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Hmm... two possibles for the price of one-- is that double points or half credit each?Anyway, "Luxemburg Wuzzit" still claims 1st position! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landsknechte Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 (edited) Well it looks like we can scratch the Milit?r-Sanit?ts-Kreuz off for the red and white ribbon. It appears as if that one is supposed to appear on a red ribbon with wider silver stripes.Are there any units that have Dutch "chiefs", possibly as an explanation for the Dutch ribbon? Edited December 5, 2005 by landsknechte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gregory Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Well it looks like we can scratch the Milit?r-Sanit?ts-Kreuz off for the red and white ribbon. It appears as if that one is supposed to appear on a red ribbon with wider silver stripes.Just to confuse matters, the Milit?r-Sanit?ts-Kreuz was also awarded on the same ribbon as for the Hessen Allgemeines Ehrenzeichen for front-line medics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landsknechte Posted December 6, 2005 Author Share Posted December 6, 2005 Just to confuse matters, the Milit?r-Sanit?ts-Kreuz was also awarded on the same ribbon as for the Hessen Allgemeines Ehrenzeichen for front-line medics.Ah well, at least we can say with some reasonable shred of certainty that it was something Hessian. If it weren't for that meddling KEZ, we'd at least be able to narrow it down to something medical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Krause Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 ... and the very same Nassau style ribbon was used for the Weimar time Fire Brigade medal of the Fire brigade association Hessen- Nassau.Best regardsDaniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landsknechte Posted December 8, 2005 Author Share Posted December 8, 2005 ... and the very same Nassau style ribbon was used for the Weimar time Fire Brigade medal of the Fire brigade association Hessen- Nassau.Best regardsDanielI don't know whether to laugh or cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JensF. Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 (edited) But the CoL has white stripes on red. This is my 1918 model with swords. Ok, the stripes are too narrow... I also think it is something from Hessen on the ribbon bar. Maybe the Sani-Cross. Edited December 8, 2005 by JensF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landsknechte Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 Hmmm... The ribbon bar chart that surfaced in this thread (link here) shows a remarkably similar ribbon to the ribbon in first place as the Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt "Medal of Merit for Combatants 1898-1914". Anyone know anything about that decoration?--Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landsknechte Posted May 20, 2006 Author Share Posted May 20, 2006 I can't extracate the image from the PDF of Thies' latest catalog, but I may have found another match on page 24:"Medaille auf die 200-Jahr-Feier des 2. Bat. 7. Th?r. Inf. Reg. No. 96"Curiouser and curiouser... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_deploige Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 But the CoL has white stripes on red. This is my 1918 model with swords. Ok, the stripes are too narrow... I also think it is something from Hessen on the ribbon bar. Maybe the Sani-Cross.this is from Finland: Order of the Cross of Liberty (Wartime)Medals of the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landsknechte Posted May 20, 2006 Author Share Posted May 20, 2006 Random thought... Would this bar make any more sense if it were the bottom row of a double row bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Nope. Makes absolutely no sense at all, even as is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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