Christian Zulus Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 (edited) Both, maybe. I do sense a significant (and unfortunate) draw-down in activity in most non-Teutonic sub-fora. Summer vacations? Malaise?Dear Ed,I guess, that the certain inactivity has something to do with the prices at the market & our personal income .Soviet items skyrocketed and at the same period, you can buy 1,4 USD for 1,0 EURO, which makes the prices even more expensive for non-EU-collectors.But at phaleristic sectors, where the prices are still very moderate, you have a lot of activity on GMIC. The best example is the GMIC-YU-section, which is growing in extremly rapid pace: Great items & moderate prices.Best regards Christian Edited September 13, 2007 by Christian Zulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 True, true. I know the free-fall of the $US all TOO personally. Also, in at least the Soviet and Mongolian fora, long delays in research has probably contributed to silence.More specifically, Jim has thrown us a question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slava1stclass Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 True, true. I know the free-fall of the $US all TOO personally. Also, in at least the Soviet and Mongolian fora, long delays in research has probably contributed to silence.More specifically, Jim has thrown us a question!Gents, All the more reason for you to get out there and publish. Let's fill the military sections of Walden Books, Borders Books, Barnes and Noble etc. with more Mongolian and Soviet-related titles. This alone will help increase knowledge and grow the interest base. Self-published endeavors, while commendable, just won't do it with their low print runs. You have to hit the masses. The German enthusiasts do this especially well - just scan these stores' shelves for Motorbooks publications dealing with the topic. English language Soviet offerings pale in comparison. Get to it. You can do it!Regards,slava1stclass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Gents, All the more reason for you to get out there and publish. Let's fill the military sections of Walden Books, Borders Books, Barnes and Noble etc. with more Mongolian and Soviet-related titles. This alone will help increase knowledge and grow the interest base. Self-published endeavors, while commendable, just won't do it with their low print runs. You have to hit the masses. The German enthusiasts do this especially well - just scan these stores' shelves for Motorbooks publications dealing with the topic. English language Soviet offerings pale in comparison. Get to it. You can do it!Regards,slava1stclassWise words, which are 100 % true .When are you going to publish your great book about the "Order of Glory" ?Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 (edited) K-3 Leninsky Komsomol He he....We got ourselves our own little "Hunt for the Red October"....... But not enough people shooting depth charges ... Is the question that hard or are we losing steam? Will this be the longest standing question? Jim Dear Jim,might it have been the accident at the 8th of september 1967 of CCCPs first nuclear submarine K-3 Leninsky Komsomol .http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_submarine_K-3The incident happened before the coast of Norway and 39 crew members died in section 1 & 2."Numerous rewards were recommended for the crew, including seven nominations for Hero of Soviet Union -- four of them posthumous. A later commission from Moscow, however, found a cigarette lighter in the torpedo compartment and found the position of a sailor's body suspicious. They ruled that the sailor's smoking had caused the fire and prohibited any award."Well, I guess, that answer might be right .Best regards Christian Edited September 13, 2007 by Christian Zulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 By George, I think you've got it!We await Jim . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Correct answer of Jim's question Dear Jim,1) What bound these people together?The Soviet submarine K-3 Leninsky Komsomol (first nuclear submarine of the CCCP!).2) What was the incident that earned them this nomination?The accident at the 8th of september 1967 before the Norwegian coast, when fire broke out on bord. The incident happened before the coast of Norway and 39 crew members died in section 1 & 2. The crew & captain managed to bring back the boat to the home harbour.3) Why did they not receive the title?Well, smoking doesn't only harm your personal health, but also the possibiltiy for you and your comrades to get a HSU, orders and medals .Best regards ChristianK-3 Leninsky Komsomol Dear Jim,might it have been the accident at the 8th of september 1967 of CCCPs first nuclear submarine K-3 Leninsky Komsomol .http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_submarine_K-3The incident happened before the coast of Norway and 39 crew members died in section 1 & 2."Numerous rewards were recommended for the crew, including seven nominations for Hero of Soviet Union -- four of them posthumous. A later commission from Moscow, however, found a cigarette lighter in the torpedo compartment and found the position of a sailor's body suspicious. They ruled that the sailor's smoking had caused the fire and prohibited any award."Well, I guess, that answer might be right .Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 (edited) Question #144 Gentlemen,let's believe in George .... By George, I think you've got it!We await Jim . . . .... and speed up Christophe's quiz with an (very, very) easy question in the traditional manner .Who am I ?1) What had been my job in the CCCP?2) Please list ALL my CCCP titles, orders & prizes.3) I played an important role in an US-movie - which movie?4) I wrote a well know book - which book?The first, who answers ALL questions is the winner .Best regards ChristianBTW: This had been my post #1.750 at GMIC . Edited September 13, 2007 by Christian Zulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted September 13, 2007 Author Share Posted September 13, 2007 Hi Christian,An easy one for me, as I met him several times, and we had numerous occasions to drink a number of shots of vodka together... He is Igor Spassky, Igor Dmitrievich Spassky (Russian: Игорь Дмитриевич Спасский, born August 2, 1926). 1) What had been my job in the CCCP?Igor Spassky is a Russian (and former Soviet) scientist, engineer and entrepreneur, General Designer of nearly 200 Soviet and Russian nuclear submarines, and the head of the Central Design Bureau for Marine Engineering Rubin.2) Please list ALL my CCCP titles, orders & prizes.He has been awarded the Lenin Prize (1965), USSR State Prize (1983), became a Hero of Socialist Labor (1978), received two Orders of Lenin, the Order of the October Revolution and two Orders of the Red Banner of Labour.We can add the Russian Orthodox Church awarded Spassky the Order of Saint Prince Daniila of Moscow. 3) I played an important role in an US-movie - which movie?Kursk4) I wrote a well know book - which book?Igor Spassky - Five Colors of Time .Hope this is OK.... Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Dear Christophe,perfect - congratulations .Question #145 is now your turn .Maybe you can tell us something about that famous HSL Spassky .Best regards ChristianHi Christian,An easy one for me, as I met him several times, and we had numerous occasions to drink a number of shots of vodka together... He is Igor Spassky, Igor Dmitrievich Spassky (Russian: Игорь Дмитриевич Спасский, born August 2, 1926). 1) What had been my job in the CCCP?Igor Spassky is a Russian (and former Soviet) scientist, engineer and entrepreneur, General Designer of nearly 200 Soviet and Russian nuclear submarines, and the head of the Central Design Bureau for Marine Engineering Rubin.2) Please list ALL my CCCP titles, orders & prizes.He has been awarded the Lenin Prize (1965), USSR State Prize (1983), became a Hero of Socialist Labor (1978), received two Orders of Lenin, the Order of the October Revolution and two Orders of the Red Banner of Labour.We can add the Russian Orthodox Church awarded Spassky the Order of Saint Prince Daniila of Moscow. 3) I played an important role in an US-movie - which movie?Kursk4) I wrote a well know book - which book?Igor Spassky - Five Colors of Time .Hope this is OK.... Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Dear Christophe,one of Spassky's constructions played also THE major role in "Hunt for Red October" - submarine "Red October" .Best regards ChristianBTW: I would assume, that comrade Spassky is the greatest submarine-designer of the last century . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimZ Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Christian,Whereas it is only good manners to wait for the person asking the question to revert back and to confirm the correct anser, I must congratulate you for finally answering the question.RegardsJim http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_submarine_K-3К-3 was a project 627 "Кит" ("kit," meaning "whale"; NATO reporting name "November") submarine of the Soviet Navy's Northern Fleet, the first nuclear submarine of the Soviet Union. The vessel was prototyped in wood, with each of five segments scattered between five different locations about Leningrad, including the Astoria Hotel.[1] She was built in Molotovsk, launched on August 9, 1957, commissioned in July 1958, and homeported at Zapadnaya Litsa on the Kola Peninsula. K-3 was designed by Vladimir Peregoudov.[1] Her initial captain was Leonid Ossipenko, and the executive officer was Lev Zviltsov, who had the important task of assembling the first crew.[1]On June 17, 1962, by this time under the command of Zviltsov[1], К-3 reached the North Pole underwater, a feat performed nearly four years earlier by USS Nautilus. For this feat, she was awarded the name Leninsky Komsomol (Ленинский Комсомол) on October 9, 1962, and her crew, rather than training in military operations, began taking part in many congresses and conferences. This idle life continued until the summer of 1967 when a boat that had been scheduled for patrol in the Mediterranean Sea was unavailable. К-3 was tasked with that patrol. She was assigned a new commander, Captain Second Rank Stepanova, and her executive officer arrived aboard only two hours before she put to sea. Whatever the initial material condition of the boat, the crew was not ready for sea. By the time they reached the Mediterranean, the air regeneration system had failed and the temperature on board was 35?-40?C (95?-104?F).Once in the Mediterranean, К-3 was given the mission of following an American ballistic missile submarine, which she was unable to do. The boat was ordered to return to base.On September 8, 1967, while transiting the Norwegian Sea, a fire broke out in the submarine's hydraulic system, and crew members in the compartment when the fire broke out had to evacuate the compartment. The flames spread to other parts of the submarine. The automatic extinguishers were based on carbon dioxide gas, which killed the crew members who were in the first and second compartments foremost in the submarine. When the dividing door in the bulkhead from the third compartment was opened to see what had happened to the people in the second compartment, the gas spread, and more people lost consciousness. The foremost compartments were then completely sealed off, and the submarine surfaced. Four days later, К-3 returned to base. A total of 39 crew members died in the fire.The subsequent investigation determined that the most probable cause of the fire was ignition of an explosive concentration of hydraulic oil, and that the reactions of the crew were prompt and correct. Numerous rewards were recommended for the crew, including seven nominations for Hero of Soviet Union -- four of them posthumous. A later commission from Moscow, however, found a cigarette lighter in the torpedo compartment and found the position of a sailor's body suspicious. They ruled that the sailor's smoking had caused the fire and prohibited any award.In 1991 a memorial was erected in Zapadnaya Litsa to the men lost aboard К-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Christian,Whereas it is only good manners to wait for the person asking the question to revert back and to confirm the correct anser, I must congratulate you for finally answering the question.RegardsJim Dear Jim,sorry for not waiting for your confirmation .... .Many thanks for your congratulation .Well, I just wanted to speed up our quiz a bit and the correctness of my answer seemed obvious to me and other participants of our quiz.Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted September 14, 2007 Author Share Posted September 14, 2007 Christian,Whereas it is only good manners to wait for the person asking the question to revert back and to confirm the correct anser, I must congratulate you for finally answering the question.(...)Hi Christian,I agree. It is a good rule (and the rule) to wait for the confirmation of the good answer before posting a new question. It is, as said Jim, "good manners", and it gives more lisibility to the all thread. And, who knows, maybe the answer is not the right one.... So, let's be patient... But, of course, if the confirmation of the answer would become too long to appear, it is time to launch a new challenge. Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 But, of course, if the confirmation of the answer would become too long to appear, it is time to launch a new challenge.Dear Christophe,the quiz is your invention - so, what is "too long" ?Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted September 14, 2007 Author Share Posted September 14, 2007 Time for a few stats :This small game has now been launched more than 22 months ago now (on 1 Nov. 2005), and since :* 144 questions asked,* with 1,740 answers,* This quiz has been viewed more than 18,500 times.* 36 Members of the Forum played, and 26 correctly answered at least 1 question :Nb of good answers :* 28 : Christian (Zulus) * 27 : Christophe* 11 : Bryan (Soviet)* 8 : Franck (Knarf) and Simon (Red Threat)* 7 : Jim (JimZ)* 6 : Auke (Ferdinand) and Belaruski* 5 : Carol I and Ed (Haynes).* 4 : Wild Card.* 3 : Andreas (Alfred), Ivan (Piramida) and Kim (Kimj).* 2 : Chuck (in Oregon), Gerd (Becker), Jan (vatjan) and Order of Victory.* 1 : Dan (Hauptman), Darrell, Daredevil, Dave (Navy FCO), Dudeman, Filip (Drugo), Rick (Stogieman) and Steen (Ammentorp). This is a great achievement. Thanks to all for your participation. Now, let's continue to have fun with the 145th question... Mine!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted September 14, 2007 Author Share Posted September 14, 2007 Dear Christophe,the quiz is your invention - so, what is "too long" ?Best regards ChristianI would say, at least a few days. And to be adapted regarding the situation. It would not be the same if the original poster of the question connects himself to the Forum, but does not provide the answer... or if he is away without connecting himself at all...The recommandation is to let enough time (very scientific, isn't it... ) to the original poster to come back with his answer... Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted September 15, 2007 Author Share Posted September 15, 2007 Question #145It will be an easy one for you, experts, as I am not inspired today... Simple question :To whom belongs this awards booklet ?Good hunt and good luck. Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimZ Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Booklet belongs to Vice Admiral G.N. Kholostyakov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted September 15, 2007 Author Share Posted September 15, 2007 Congratulations Jim, You're the winner!!! You will find more about Vice-Admiral Georgi Kholostyakov in the posts #1341 & #1345 of the Quiz.Here is the first page of the booklet :Jim, your turn, now!!!!Cheers. Ch.Pic : Sergey Shishkov & Mikail Muzalevsky - Orders and Medals of the USSR - Vol 1. 1996 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Ka-CHING! That was quick, Jim! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted September 15, 2007 Author Share Posted September 15, 2007 Here is an updated version of the Summary.Summary #3Here are all the topics dealt through our questions and answers of this little Quiz.Are shown below :* Subject / question dealt - Number of the post where has been asked the question.Awards / Orders & Medals* GDR - Title Hero fo the GDR - #153* GDR - Order of Karl Marx - #359* India - Ashoka Chakra awarded to Soviet citizens - #131* Mongolia - Medal Cosmonaut of the MPR - #110 & #601* Russia - Order of Merit for the Country - #441* SSR Georgia - Order of Red Banner of Labour - #222* USSR - Honorary Revolutionary Weapons and early awards of the RSFSR - #874 & #1693* USSR - Order of the Red Banner of Labour of the RSFSR - #1618 * USSR - Order of Glory - #1582* USSR - Order of Lenin - #88* USSR - Order of Stalin - #243 & #1228* USSR - Order of Suvorov - #1341* USSR - Orders with Serial Number 001 - #585 & #1366* USSR - Medal for Bravery - #170 * USSR - Medals for Defense / Capture / Liberation - #25* USSR - Medal 800 Years of Moscow - #1697* USSR - Krupskaya Medal of Merit in Teaching and Education - #625Personalities (Awards)* France - Marcel Lef?vre's awards - #186* Mongolia - S?khbaatar, Dandzan & Choibalsan - #1242* USSR - Vasily Blyukhner - #1366* USSR - Vice-Admiral Georgi Kholostyakov - #1341, #1345 & #1744* USSR - Marshal of Aviation Vladimir Sudets - #1464* USSR - Marshal Georgi Zhukov's awards - #2 & #1366* USSR - Highest ranking Soviet officer to receive a Partisan medal - #1522* USSR - Recipients #1 of some of the USSR major orders - #585 & #1366* USSR - Recipients of several classes of major awards of GPW - #1388Personalities (Identification)* Austria - Commander Alexander L?hr - #1131* China - Li Zensheng - #1279* Egypt - Hakim Abdel Amer - #278* Germany - Ernst Reuter - #1460* Germany - Klara Zetkin - #30* India - Subadar Birta Sing Gurung - #290* Poland - Michał Rola-Żymierski - #1435* Romania - Henri Coanda - #1119* Romania - Maj-General Mihail Lascar - #928* Romania - Hermann Oberth - #1059* Russia - Valery Gergiev - #352* Russia - Pyotr Nesterov - #854* Russia - Admiral Fedor Ushakov - #81* UK - Winston Churchill - #780* UK - Baroness Clementine Spencer-Churchill - #329* USA - Henry Morgenthau Jr - #932* USSR - Sultan Amet-Khan - #574* USSR - General Aleksei Antonov - #1477 * USSR - Commander Vasili Arkhipow - #1065 * USSR - Georgiy Baidukov - #1004* USSR - Snr-Lieutenant Vicktor Belenko - #1095* USSR - Lavrentyi Beria - #944* USSR - Alexander Buchin - #426* USSR - Marshal Semyon Budyonny - #743* USSR - General Vassily Chuikov - #20* USSR - Yevgeni Dolmatovski - #1271* USSR - Vasily Grosman - #1266* USSR - Lt-General Kuzma Gurov - #718* USSR - Lt-General Ignatii Karpezo - #236* USSR - Mikhail Katukov - #1396* USSR - Alexandr Kollontai - #376* USSR - Marshal Ivan Konev - #66* USSR - Nikita Khrushchev & friends - #623* USSR - General Yakov Kreiser - #695* USSR - Nadezhda Krupskaya - #1128* USSR - Igor Kurchatov - #979* USSR - Lenin, Trosky and Stalin - #920* USSR - Nikolay Masalov - #504* USSR - Pyotr Masherov - #752* USSR - Vsevolod Merkulov - #252* USSR - Sergey Mikhalkov & family - #878* USSR - Maria Oktiabrskaia - #1141* USSR - Lieutenant Os'kin - #1196* USSR - Lyudmila Pavlichenko - #1050* USSR - Zina Portnova - #490* USSR - Nina Potsova - #302* USSR - Alla Pugachova - #267* USSR - General Aleksandr Rodimtsev - #735* USSR - Dmitry Rogachev - #1467* USSR - General Isaac Salzmann - #533* USSR - Svetlana Savitskaya - #1046* USSR - Professor Otto Schmidt - #564* USSR - Ivan Serov - #1441* USSR - Marshal Boris Shaposhnikov - #772* USSR - Georgi Shpagin - #249* USSR - Konstantin Simonov - #1307* USSR - Igor Spassky - #1734* USSR - Maj-General Nikolai Stakhanov - #986* USSR - Marshal Joseph Stalin - #732 & #1200* USSR - Fedor Tokarev - #1303* USSR - General Matvei Vainrub - #708* USSR - Andrei Zhdanov - #1455* Yugoslavia - General Milan Nedic - #1418* Yugoslavia - General Konstantin Popovic - #671* Yugoslavia - Marshal Josip Tito - #364, #603 & #1226Historical events* 1942 - Last defender of Brest Fortress - #847* 1942 - Operation Uranus - #955* 1943 - Battle of Neretva - #1411* 1945 - Capture of Vienna - #1345* 1967 - Incident submarine K-3 Leninsky Komsomol - #1703* 1969 - Czechoslovakia Hockey Riots - #515* 1979 - Visit of French President in Berlin - #891Architecture / sites* Baku - Monument to Kirov - #386* Berlin - Check Point Charlie - #164* Berlin - First Soviet Parade Tribune - #1327* Berlin - Palast der Republik, Honecker's office - #1313* Minsk - Monument to Victory - #618* Moscow - Central Museum of the Great Patriotic War - #518 & #648* Moscow - Fountain of the Friendship of Nations - #1233* Moscow - State Kremlin Palace - #522* Moscow - VDNKh Exhibition Center - #1536* New York - USSR Pavilion at the 1939 International Exhibition - #205* Prag - Monument to Stalin - #537* St Petersburg - Statue of Lenin - #46* Stalingrad - Fountain "Playing Kids" - #230* Stalingrad - Great Patriotic War Memorial - #60 & #995* Sutjeska - Tjeniste Monument to Battle of Sutjeska - #665* Vienna - Monument to the Red Army - #553* Zhukovski - Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute (TsAGI) - #1636Aircraft, weapons, military equiment...* Cruiser Lazar Kaganovich - #1502* IAR-95 "Spey" fighter - #955* KV-1 tank - #826* Mig 15 - #896* Obyekt 279 tank - #940* Sergei Mironovich Kirov tank - #1105* TB-3 & I-16 aircraft - #1035 * Tupolev 144 - #1204Other topics* BARTCC (Berlin Air Route Traffic Control Center) - #1498* Dogs & Military Leaders of WW2 - #648* Gagarin's car - #460* GAZ - Gorkovsky Avtomobilny Zavod - #1568* Iran, Serbia, Venezuela & International Community - #915* Ministers of War of the USSR - #1585* Operation Solo - #804* Psychotronic weapons - #1082 * Red Army's ranks (Senior Marshal of Communications Troops &Senior Marshal of Engineering Troops) - #581* Soviet Forces in East Germany - #1489 & #1592* Soviet defectors - #1165 & #1614* SOXMIS (Soviet Mission in West-Germany) - #902* Fyodor Vidayev + Kursk submarines - #1285* "The Watch That Went To Moscow" - #309 Ch. 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Christophe Posted September 15, 2007 Author Share Posted September 15, 2007 (edited) Some other stats : Here are the ones who have been Number 1 in terms of victories since the beginning of the quiz.This indicates :* Name - (Victory N? who brought the status of N?1) - Period of time being N?1 - Number of days being N?1Here is an example : * Dave (Navy FCO) - 1 - 01.11.05 / 04.12.05 - 34 days.Means : * Dave has been N?1 with his 1st victory. He has been N?1 from 01.11.05 to 04.12.05, during 34 days.Here are the results :* Dave (Navy FCO) - 1 - 01.11.05 / 04.12.05 - 34 days.* Christophe - 2 - 04.12.05 / 12.02.06 - 70 days.* Bryan (Soviet) - 4 - 12.02.06 / 08.09.06 - 215 days.* Christophe - 6 - 08.09.06 / 30.11.06 - 84 days.* Bryan (Soviet) - 8 - 30.11.06 / 03.03.07 - 94 days.* Christophe - 10 - 03.03.07 / 12.03.07 - 10 days.* Christian (Zulus) - 11 - 12.03.07 / ... - More than 188 days.In adding all these results, this gives as a grand total :* Bryan (Soviet) - 309 days.* Christian (Zulus) - 188+ days. * Christophe - 164 days.* Dave (Navy FCO) - 34 days.Great job from all!!! ... and a really outstanding performance from Christian, who is on his way for beating all records... Cheers.Ch. Edited September 15, 2007 by Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 You clearly have too much spare time, Christophe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted September 15, 2007 Author Share Posted September 15, 2007 You believe...? I just fully use the 24 hours we all have a day... Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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