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    I know nothing about Serbian awards or badges but my first reaction to that kind of verdigris, cynic that I am, is that it could very well be covering a multitude of sins - imperfections in this case.

    • 5 months later...
    Posted

    Hello everybody!

    I am new to the forum and I thought that I should contribute a little with some items I got. 

    First off, a document from 24. October 1943 regarding logistics. You can barely see the deaths head stamp.

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    Here is some pictures of Chetniks.

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    And finally two Ravna Gora badges. One of them was previously owned by a Vojvoda who later fled communist Yugoslavia. 

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    Pozdrav! 
    "Dragoljub"

    Posted
    On 03/03/2015 at 00:53, paja said:

     

    Welcome on board Dragoljub!Thanks for reminding me that I have a few documents with scull and crossbones in my database.The earliest one I could find is a drawing from Chilandari Monastery depicting "Adams head".The inscription is in church Slavonic and it is signed by "Bulgarian"...The last scan is from the document in my possession with the official seal and signature of Genaral Mihailovic himself!

    Добро дошао на форум Драгољубе!Хвала шти си ме подсетио да и ја имам неколико документа са Четничким грбом-лобањом са укрштеник бутним костима у мојој датотеци.Прва и најстарија слика је из Манастира Хиландара са Старословенским текстом о "Адамовој Глави".Последња слика је скен документа из моје колекције са својеручним потписом и печатом Ђенерала Михаловића!

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    Posted
    4 hours ago, ЧЕТНИК said:

    Welcome on board Dragoljub!Thanks for reminding me that I have a few documents with scull and crossbones in my database.The earliest one I could find is a drawing from Chilandari Monastery depicting "Adams head".The inscription is in church Slavonic and it is signed by "Bulgarian"...The last scan is from the document in my possession with the official seal and signature of Genaral Mihailovic himself!

    Добро дошао на форум Драгољубе!Хвала шти си ме подсетио да и ја имам неколико документа са Четничким грбом-лобањом са укрштеник бутним костима у мојој датотеци.Прва и најстарија слика је из Манастира Хиландара са Старословенским текстом о "Адамовој Глави".Последња слика је скен документа из моје колекције са својеручним потписом и печатом Ђенерала Михаловића!

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    Wonderful documents, Chetnik! These are indeed unique. I would guess that Draza's signature would cost some money...! 

    I was offered today to buy 6-7 original WW2 photos from 1944 on various chetniks. A few of the photos was german on Ravna Gora chetniks in german prison camps. I was offered by my contact in north Serbia to buy them for around 10 €. What do you say? fair price?

    Pozdrav, Za kralja i Otadzbinu! :-)
    Drago

     

     

    Posted (edited)

    Hello Dragoljub!Glad that you liked the photos,hope that other Forum members liked them as well.Couple more for you and respectable members,I think that document with General Mihailovich signature and seal of the  supreme headquarters was offered for sale on Ebay recently for some unbelievable sum(6000$USA).I got mine as a gift!There is a earlier(initial) improvised version of supreme headquarters seal with scull and crossbones.I submit the scan of the document with that seal, Genaral Mihailovic`s (Chicha`s) signature is clearly visible.

    Photos of chetniks captured by Axis soldiers are extremely rare and consequently very expensive!To pay 10E for original photo like that is a basement bargain.GRAB IT!!!

    I have couple scans with similar/same subject which might interest you.Pay attention to the photos of Axis  soldiers  with the captured Chetnik flag.

    Greetings.

    С вером Бога,Слобода или Смрт!Равна Гора-победити мора!

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    Edited by ЧЕТНИК
    • 2 weeks later...
    • 2 months later...
    Posted (edited)

    A Ravna Gora badge, "Sloboda ili Smrt" = "Freedom or Death". On the back it´s written "Fabrika Resava". Does anybody have a knowledge about that manufacturer?

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    • 2 months later...
    • 2 months later...
    Posted

    I bought this kokarda more than a quarter of a century ago…I was told that this is one of the earliest/rarest models from the period 1903-1914.I think I got the photographic proof recently!

    Ову кокарду сам купио пре више од 25 година.Кад је купих,човек који ми је продао ми рече да је ово стара комитска кокарда.Мислим да сам коначно нашао фотографски доказ за то!

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    • 3 weeks later...
    Posted (edited)

    Поздрав свима.

    Занима ме да ли је неко виђао кокарду коју носи војвода Ђекић на овим сликама? Ако неко има изглед кокарде замолио бих га да избаци овде. Унапред хвала. Велики поздрав за све.

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    • 9 months later...
    Posted

    What do you think about this badge? It belongs to a fellow collector from Slovenia.
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    • 3 months later...
    Posted

    Hey, I'm new to this forum and I've been collecting original WW2 chetnik memorabilia and been seeing this dagger on eBay that claims to be real. But when I go back and look at past conversations on the forum I can see that this same seller has sold fakes before. I'm just not sure whether its real or not as the sheath looks identical to some that I can find in original WW2 photos, but not the actual dagger. Also if you look at the images listed with the item they are completely different to the one being sold.

    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SERBIA-assault-chetnik-knife-knife-WWII/123089896557?hash=item1ca8bac46d:g:6CsAAOSwZz9a2lOm

    Actual photos from eBay listing:

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    Real chetnik dagger and photo (not part of listing):

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    • 2 weeks later...
    Posted

    Here are some of my original chetnik cockade the first one is what I believe is called a ‘wartime’ cockade and the other one I’m pretty sure is a ‘Dinarska’ cockade, from the ones worn by the Dinarska Division.9DA1AAEF-B32A-43EE-9D8F-B80A7DF8766F.thumb.png.4f04346fc2418e082f6087b084d922e5.png 8E3BB466-0889-4979-989B-68DD43D715FF.thumb.png.e4164686c646087c216a08e5997567b3.png 

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    • 1 month later...
    Posted

    Aha, I wasn't to sure about the authenticity of those two they are my fathers and I wasn't aware. Seeing as its like $1,000 for an original (even if you can find one) no wonder there are so many replicas. Here is another 'wartime kokarda', this one is in pretty bad condition and the skull is damaged not sure if this one is real. Also the "kovnica a.d. Beograd" is barley visible so I am pretty sure that this might be a casting, maybe done during WW2 if original. If you ask me it's an original, but as you can see I am no expert.

    See photos below

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    Posted

    The eBay seller: miki-ni, has been selling these very nice looking Chetnik knives for a while and they are allays listed at around $500-$600, but just recently he has listed one at $1,000. This one looks nice but I am 100% sure it's a fake like the other ones, it looks very similar to the chetnik m24 kama dagger, but this one doesn't have the bayonet attachment on the end of the handle. I confronted the seller and asked him where he had gotten all of the knives and badges that he had for sale. He told me that he had bought everything in Serbia in the town of  Kruševac from a family, who during the WW2 lived in the village of Kukljin  where there was a Chetnik headquaters at the time. This story is a little hard for me to believe and I am pretty sure that he is lying, make your own judgment. I told him that I think that they are fake and he told me if I think that they're fake, don't buy them, you cant judge authenticity from pictures.

    Also every knife he lists is listed under the name of "SERBIA assault chetnik knife knife WWII" and the description for this knife is "an assault knife worn by elite chetnik assault units under the command of General Draza Mihajlovic during the WWII. Dimensions, length of knife 36 cm, length of blade 19.5cm, width of blade 3.2cm. The knife handle is made of bone."

    Photos can be seen on the eBay listing: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SERBIA-assault-chetnik-knife-knife-WWII/123256516902?hash=item1cb2a93126%3Ag%3A2cUAAOSwc~1bTiIX&_sop=16&_sacat=0&_nkw=chetnik&_from=R40&rt=nc

     

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    Above are the closest designs I can find looking similar to the listing.

     

    Posted (edited)

    The guy who sells those fakes is retired tito`s officer from the city of Nish.Fakes he peddles are made by local blacksmith who lives about 30km away from him .

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    • 3 weeks later...

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