medalnet Posted November 9, 2005 Posted November 9, 2005 Something to look at: Orders and Decorations in their natural habitat:Groh (the Saxon) and Oberst von Marchtaler (the Wuerttembergiensis)
joe campbell Posted November 9, 2005 Posted November 9, 2005 the oberst, a wuerttemberger, has austrian style awards on hisleft breast.is calling these "austrian" style awards inaccurate?and that's the first time i've seen the EK at sucha low level of precedence. can you explain?thanks for these wonderful pictures, andreas!joe
Stogieman Posted November 9, 2005 Posted November 9, 2005 Yes people...... that IS a MOSH, RK AND a ZVO, RK1wX on trifolds there.Awesome photos Andreas!
Guest Rick Research Posted November 9, 2005 Posted November 9, 2005 love seeing these sort of "fully equipped" portraits.The EK is "slighted" because the wearer was a Saxon and wore his home state awards first.I think "Austrian" is acceptable for the trifolds-- it came from there, and use of this style even into the 1930s in the former South German Confederation states indicated a personal "political statement" that Berlin was not the center of THEIR world.
Biro Posted November 9, 2005 Posted November 9, 2005 ...Berlin was not the center of THEIR world...........But obviously the place to go to get your photo taken!! Wonderful pictures Andreas.Marshall
notned Posted November 9, 2005 Posted November 9, 2005 (edited) I agree! Wonderful pictures Andreas! thankyou.I just love to see these sorts of pics... Just had another look at the Colonel....maybe they whited out the portrait...because of his big belly? Edited November 9, 2005 by notned
Dave Danner Posted November 9, 2005 Posted November 9, 2005 the oberst, a wuerttemberger, has austrian style awards on hisleft breast.is calling these "austrian" style awards inaccurate?and that's the first time i've seen the EK at sucha low level of precedence. can you explain?thanks for these wonderful pictures, andreas!joeTo clarify, the Saxon is the one on the right with trifolds. Besides the St. Henry, ZVO and EK, he has the Saxon Erinnerungskreuz 1866 and the KDM 1870/71. As for the precedence, Saxons and Bavarians generally put their own military decorations ahead of Prussia's. I note, though, that he also put a Saxon campaign award ahead of the EK.As for the other one, how is this von Marchtaler related to Gen. von Marchtaler, the W?rttemberg Minister of War in WW1?
Glenn J Posted November 9, 2005 Posted November 9, 2005 Carl Albrecht Groh is still an Hauptmann in this photograph which therefore must date it between his award of the St. Henry on 27 March 1871 and his 23 December 1874 promotion to Major. Born on the 14 February 1835, he commanded the 1. Feldartillerie-Regiment Nr. 12 from 23 January 1885 to 13 November 1886 and died on 11 May 1895 as an Oberst a.D.RegardsGlenn
joe campbell Posted November 9, 2005 Posted November 9, 2005 gentlemen-this neophyte TRULY appreciates yourwisdom, perspective, and willingness toimpart knowledge!many thanks!joe
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