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    My Austro-Hungarian collection

    Riley1965

    By Riley1965
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    Riley1965 Grand Master

    Riley1965

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    This will be a work in progress as I am getting all of the scans into one file folder. First (Thanks to Timo :D ), a Pair...

    Cross of Honor with swords (Combattant) and the Commemorative Medal of the World War with Crossed swords and Helmut (Combattant).

    :beer:

    Paul R Grand Master

    Paul R

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    Nice medals, but not Austro-Hungarian. The first is German, the other is Hungarian.

    I have never seen this combination in that mounting style!! Nice one!

    nesredep Grand Master

    nesredep

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    This will be a work in progress as I am getting all of the scans into one file folder. First (Thanks to Timo :D ), a Pair...

    Cross of Honor with swords (Combattant) and the Commemorative Medal of the World War with Crossed swords and Helmut (Combattant).

    :beer:

    Hello!

    Nice mounting. :cheers:

    All the best

    Nesredep

    Riley1965 Grand Master

    Riley1965

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    Nice medals, but not Austro-Hungarian. The first is German, the other is Hungarian.

    I realize that the Hindenburg Cross is German and the commemorative medal is Hungarian. My question is...Was this awarded during the Austro-Hungarian period or post AH?

    :beer: Doc

    Josef Rietveld Proficient

    Josef Rietveld

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    I realize that the Hindenburg Cross is German and the commemorative medal is Hungarian. My question is...Was this awarded during the Austro-Hungarian period or post AH?

    :beer: Doc

    hi doc,

    both awards were given in the 1930ies

    josef

    Iver Experienced

    Iver

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    Riley1965: Post war.. German Cross of Honor in 1934 and Hungarian WWI commemorative medal in 1929
    Gordon Craig Grand Master

    Gordon Craig

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    Clasic A-H style - on trifold ribbon, but i am not shore if ribbons are original or COPY...

    Riley1965,

    The ribbons look too new to be original but the "hook and eye" is correct for the period. Repro ribbons that I see in Hungary usually have a flat piece of aluminum for the hook instead of a bent double piece of wire as is seen on the ribbons on your medals. The medals are also mounted correctly with the ring inside the ribbon and not hanging down below it.

    Regards,

    Gordon

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    Riley1965 Grand Master

    Riley1965

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    Riley1965: Post war.. German Cross of Honor in 1934 and Hungarian WWI commemorative medal in 1929

    So this is actually a Hungarian pair?

    :beer: Doc

    Gordon Craig Grand Master

    Gordon Craig

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    Doc,

    The ribbons don't necessarily have to be repro since they have the correct mounting hardware. As to being Hungarian, I doubt it very much. Hungary, like most countries, puts foreign awards last. This pair has the German award first and then the Hungarian award. That would not normally be done in Hungary. Also, they could not be mounted on a Hungarian, or an Austrian uniform, sewn together like that. The Austro-Hungarian military suspended their medals from thread loops, one per award, sewn horizontally across the left breast of their tunics. After the dissollution of the Austro-Hungarian Empire in 1918 both countries continued their former practice. The medals were put on the tunic by removing the hook from the stool gromet, or eye, threading the ribbon through the thread loop then reinserting the hook into the metal gromet.

    Regards,

    Gordon

    Ladis Contributor

    Ladis

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    This combination of awards could be German or Austrian (after Anschluss in 1938). Hindenburg cross could be awarded only to German citizens, including inhabitants of occupied Austria and Sudetenland.

    Iver Experienced

    Iver

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    Riley1965,

    The ribbons look too new to be original but the "hook and eye" is correct for the period. Repro ribbons that I see in Hungary usually have a flat piece of aluminum for the hook instead of a bent double piece of wire as is seen on the ribbons on your medals. The medals are also mounted correctly with the ring inside the ribbon and not hanging down below it.

    Regards,

    Gordon

    Gordon: I must say, i have seen lots of COPY ribbons from Hungary and all had this classic hook as on photo..

    Riley1965: COPY ribbons or not, its nice couple...

    Ladis: What?s new in Czech republic? :)

    hunyadi Grand Master

    hunyadi

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    Folks - I concur that the ribbons appear to be of newer manufacture. The thread count and loose weave of the ribbons along with the "shiny" gromets and zinc coated wire are all hallmarks of replacement ribbon. The replacement ribbons with the aluminum hardware are certainly recent manufacture, but the aluminum ones were built not with the intention to decieve - these are...unfortunatly. Still - its a nice representative pair. Lets see more!

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