Chris Boonzaier Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 OK, The stuff I picked up on Vacation....A framed C.D.G. and MM, with a copy of the citation sent by the regt. The man was checking a telephone line when he heard sounds in front of the lines. On his own initiative he advanced to recon the area and was killed with a bullet in the head as he sounded the alarm.
Chris Boonzaier Posted November 11, 2005 Author Posted November 11, 2005 Moroccan troops were amongst the best assault trrops in WW1, very feared by the germans in WW2 and very. very, tough opponants in all the colonial battles... so I could not resist these, even though they were not "cheap" as i would have liked them to be.
Chris Boonzaier Posted November 11, 2005 Author Posted November 11, 2005 I know nothing about Spanish buckles, but part of Morocco was an old Spanish Colony, and these were found there... any help on dating these and the differences appretiated...
Chris Boonzaier Posted November 11, 2005 Author Posted November 11, 2005 Extreme right is a very early silver colonial medal (Argent stamped into the side in very thin letters like the WW2 era German lifesaving medal) the left is a later version by the same firm, the middle a smaller uglier version by another firm.I assume the right hand one has been repaired. the whole right hand one is tarnished black.
Chris Boonzaier Posted November 11, 2005 Author Posted November 11, 2005 The case in the big pic was for this close to mint, pre 51 L.D.H., no emaile damage.
Chris Boonzaier Posted November 11, 2005 Author Posted November 11, 2005 OK, some education needed here.... no idea what they are, the photos on the webpages on moroccan medals do not correspond. I think the left one is earlier than the right one, have no idea what they are worth or anything....
Chris Boonzaier Posted November 11, 2005 Author Posted November 11, 2005 The French ones very worn, unnumbered, but still of the model where Drago put a "copyright" on them. The Moroccan ones are Drago made and are numbered ones.
Chris Boonzaier Posted November 11, 2005 Author Posted November 11, 2005 Here is the one to the Belgian Agent, it has the typical loop added that you find on Berber jewellary in the area.
Chris Boonzaier Posted November 11, 2005 Author Posted November 11, 2005 The Spanish peach in Morocco medal, I saw 3-4 of these broken off at the crown in Bronze and one (this one) complete, in Silver.I do not know if this was military or what the star of David was for. the Sellar thought it was israeli.I dont know what the right hand one is...
Chris Boonzaier Posted November 11, 2005 Author Posted November 11, 2005 Along the botton it says "Spain in Africa" and has a big nosed king of some kind.
Chris Boonzaier Posted November 11, 2005 Author Posted November 11, 2005 And these....Not sure of whats on the bar or what rank would have the medals.And a seperate French expeditionary force in Indochina medal
Laurence Strong Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 (edited) Interesting haul Chris. whats the medal with the Croix de Guerre in the first photo? Edited November 11, 2005 by Laurence Strong
David Gregory Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 Chris,A very nice selection and an instant French colonial collection.Are there any variants of the Croix de Guerre that you don't yet have? Do you any nice 1914-15 or 1914-17 examples of the Croix de Guerre surplus to requirements?Any ideas when and where the citation recipient was serving when he was killed and which German units were facing him?Cheers,David
Chris Boonzaier Posted November 11, 2005 Author Posted November 11, 2005 Hi,the French Military MedalbestChris
Chris Boonzaier Posted November 11, 2005 Author Posted November 11, 2005 Chris,A very nice selection and an instant French colonial collection.Are there any variants of the Croix de Guerre that you don't yet have? Do you any nice 1914-15 or 1914-17 examples of the Croix de Guerre surplus to requirements?Any ideas when and where the citation recipient was serving when he was killed and which German units were facing him?Cheers,DavidHi, The colonial Croix de Guerres will probably go in the trade box, the WW1 ones I need to fill gaps.the 33eme R.I. was the guys unit, the award was for late august or more likely early September 1915.I found this..LA VILLE-AU-BOISMai-Ao?t 1915Dans la nuit du 18 au 19 mai, le r?giment rel?ve les fractions du 127?me R.I. dans le secteur de la VILLE-au-BOIS, Bois des BUTTES, Bois FRANCO-ALLEMAND, cote 87 devant PONTAVERT. A 100 m?tres ? peine des tranch?es allemandes, soumis journellement ? un bombardement par minenwerfer, le 33?me s'organise, creusant des tranch?es, b?tissant des abris, installant cr?neaux et postes d'?coute, cr?ant des d?fenses accessoires et patrouillant sans cesse dans le ? No man's land ?.Le 2 juillet, il appuie vers l'ouest dans le bois de situ? devant CRAONNE, au pied du CHEMIN des DAMES. Dans l'eau jusqu'aux genoux, ne pouvant creuser de boyaux, il construit des gabionnades. De nombreuses reconnaissances de nuit sont ex?cut?es, au cours desquelles se distinguent tout particuli?rement le sergent CARDON et le caporal MAGNIEZ, de la 7?me compagnie.Le 14 juillet, le g?n?ral BRULARD, commandant la 2?me D.I., vient remettre la croix de guerre, nouvellement institu?e, ? quelques braves du r?giment : capitaine CHARUE, capitaine CORBEIL, lieutenant BAGGIO et 8 hommes. Le 6, nouvelle remise de d?corations par le g?n?ral DUPLESSIS au lieutenant-colonel BOUDHORS, commandant de BRUIGNAC, lieutenants MAYOT, DUSSART et 16 hommes.Le 17, le r?giment va cantonner ? PROUILLY et P?VY, dans la Marne, o? le g?n?ral FRANCHET D'ESPEREY remet, ? son tour, quelques r?compenses. Le 33?me est laiss? ? l'instruction jusqu?au 2 ao?t.Le voici de nouveau en secteur au Bois FRANCO-ALLEMAND, au MONT DOYEN, ? la CARRIERE et au BOIS DE LA MINE. Les tranch?es fran?aises et allemandes sont tr?s pr?s les unes des autres ; ? certains endroits, elles ne sont s?par?es que par une ?paisseur de parapet ; aussi les guetteurs aux cr?neaux doivent-ils monter la garde revolver au poing. La fusillade est incessante de part et d'autre, nous ?changeons des projectiles nuit et jour, de grosses torpilles d?foncent ? tout instant nos abris, mais le 33?me, tenace et agressif, conserve une sup?riorit? marqu?e sur son adversaire. Les pertes, au cours de cette p?riode, s'?l?vent ? 5 officiers et 214 hommes de troupe. BERRY-AU-BAC ? LA MIETTE2 Septembre 1915 ? 10 F?vrier 1916Relev? par le 401?me R.I., le 2 septembre, le r?giment va bivouaquer dans le bois d'HERMONVILLE et la ferme LUTHERNAY.Le 2 octobre, il remplace la 243?me brigade en secteur ? BERRY-AU-BAC, MOSCOU et cote 108.Le 6, explosion d'un fourneau de mine allemand ; nous en occupons l'entonnoir.Le 15, dans la nuit, nouvelle et formidable explosion. La 11?me compagnie est coup?e du reste du bataillon, sa situation devient critique ainsi que celle de la fraction de la Cimenterie (sous-lieutenant DERVILLE) et de la 6?me compagnie (? droite) . Le lieutenant LABROUSSE fait imm?diatement occuper l'entonnoir de plus de 100 m?tres de diam?tre et dans lequel a disparu une section tout enti?re. Notre organisation est compl?tement boulevers?e, mais l'attitude de tous n'enreste pas moins splendide.Jusqu'au 11 novembre, le 33?me va lutter nuit et jour pour d?fendre le terrain dont il a la garde, se fortifiant sans rel?che, faisant des prisonniers et recueillant d'importants renseignements. Ses pertes sont de 2 officiers et 145 hommes.Le 11 novembre, il se rend ? PEVY et ROUCY, charg? de l?organisation de la deuxi?me ligne du secteur.Le 4 d?cembre, il vient relever le 73?me R.I. dans le secteur de la MIETTE, ferme du CHOLERA (entre BERRY-AU-BAC et JUVINCOURT). Notre r?seau de tranch?es s'?tend de la MIETTE ? l?AISNE, grossie par les derni?res pluies torrentielles. Les abris et les boyaux sont pleins d'eau. Priv?s de tout repos, souffrant terriblement du froid, les v?tements constamment mouill?s, les pieds en sang, les poilus du 33?me restent cependant vigilants et actifs et font de nombreuses reconnaissances. L'une d'elles permet ? la 2?me compagnie de ramener des prisonniers appartenant au 20?me hussards saxons. Le r?giment reste dans le secteur de la MIETTE jusqu'au 10 f?vrier. Il reste en cantonnement de repos ? CHALONS-LE-VERGEUR jusqu'au 23 f?vrier.
Tom Y Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 I know nothing about Spanish buckles, but part of Morocco was an old Spanish Colony, and these were found there... any help on dating these and the differences appretiated...I've been told the one on the left is a medic's buckle, ca. 1920-30, maybe even as late as the Civil War.
Chris Boonzaier Posted November 11, 2005 Author Posted November 11, 2005 I've been told the one on the left is a medic's buckle, ca. 1920-30, maybe even as late as the Civil War.May very well be. I thought it was the regular army one up until Franco, the middle a fancier one and the right? looks like a conquistador motif, maybe for colonial troops?
Christophe Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 OK, some education needed here.... no idea what they are, the photos on the webpages on moroccan medals do not correspond. I think the left one is earlier than the right one, have no idea what they are worth or anything....The pic seems to show the reverse. Am I correct ? If yes, may we see the front ?It looks like the Order of Ouissam Alaouite (1913), but there is no green wreath around the star... Cheers.Ch.
Chris Boonzaier Posted November 11, 2005 Author Posted November 11, 2005 The pic seems to show the reverse. Am I correct ? If yes, may we see the front ?It looks like the Order of Ouissam Alaouite (1913), but there is no green wreath around the star... Cheers.Ch.Hi,thats just it, neither of them has the wreath. I saw a few more of these, but these were in the best condition.it may be a lower grade? on the back is the usual parasol.bestChris
Christophe Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 I have read that there was a 1st version of this order, that had golden words on the branchs of the star, as one of yours. But is it not said if the wreath appeared only with the 2nd type...Ch.
Christophe Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 I think Ed Haynes could help on this one. Ed, any idea ?Cheers.Ch.
Stogieman Posted November 12, 2005 Posted November 12, 2005 Man, I never find anything when I go on vacation.............. maybe I should go with Chris next year!!
Stijn David Posted November 12, 2005 Posted November 12, 2005 Hi Chris, very nice catch, is it possible e to give some more info on the Belgian agent 'Britisch' medal? Im very interested in that one Cordial greetings,
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