Gordon Craig Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Gentlemen,I have a some questions about the subject medal. McDaniels says there were 11,000,000 awarded but he does not say how. Were they all awarded at the same time? Over a period of years? If so, what years?Regards,Gordon
Guest Rick Research Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 All in 1970, the Centennial year. Proportion of civil to military about 8:3. Not everyone got one, so despite the overwhelming numbers, there was SOME sort of "standard."
Gordon Craig Posted March 1, 2009 Author Posted March 1, 2009 Rick,Thanks. I thought so but McDaniels never said for sure. He did say that the labour issue was the most often awarded, that about 1,000,000 of the military ones were awarded and 5000 to foreigners.Regards,Gordon
Eric Gaumann Posted March 1, 2009 Posted March 1, 2009 I compiled a list recently based mostly on info from the The Red Book and the Mondvor site and I came up with 9mil for the labor version, 2mil for the military version and 5k for the foreigners version.
Guest Rick Research Posted March 1, 2009 Posted March 1, 2009 I'm still trying to figure out how some Comrades did NOT get them-- and these were not dullards and slackers, either. My Colonel Vozhachenko didn't get one-- I suspect because he was in North Vietnam at the time "off the books" so to speak. But he went on to command a division in Afghanistan. Being "under the limit" certainly wasn't a black mark that let everybody know you didn't "rate."So it can't have been that just the best of the best of the best (by the millions ) got these and "Sorry, Comrades! Quota's filled up" for the rest? (Say a factory had 2,000 employees-- 1,793 or so got 'em and the rest... eh? I don't know.....)WHATEVER these were actually supposedly given quote-unquote for, it's JUST a jubilee medal and should never have been given the weird little suspension as if it was a Next Best Gold Star. THAT was dumb.
Ferdinand Posted March 1, 2009 Posted March 1, 2009 Well, I guess a medal dedicated to the great comrade Lenin was too special to be put just somewhere between all the 'common' stuff on regular suspensions. :rolleyes:
Gordon Craig Posted March 2, 2009 Author Posted March 2, 2009 I'm still trying to figure out how some Comrades did NOT get them-- and these were not dullards and slackers, either. My Colonel Vozhachenko didn't get one-- I suspect because he was in North Vietnam at the time "off the books" so to speak. But he went on to command a division in Afghanistan. Being "under the limit" certainly wasn't a black mark that let everybody know you didn't "rate."So it can't have been that just the best of the best of the best (by the millions ) got these and "Sorry, Comrades! Quota's filled up" for the rest? (Say a factory had 2,000 employees-- 1,793 or so got 'em and the rest... eh? I don't know.....)WHATEVER these were actually supposedly given quote-unquote for, it's JUST a jubilee medal and should never have been given the weird little suspension as if it was a Next Best Gold Star. THAT was dumb.Rick,As you say, for a commemorative medal it sure got a high rating. According to McDaniels, the regulations on wear state "The Jubilee Medal "For Valourous Labour (for Military Valor) in commemoration of the 100th birthday of Vladimir Ilyitch Lenin" is worn on the left breast and when worn with other orders and medals of the USSR, is positioned on the extreme left and higher than other awards, yet below the medals "Gold Star" and "Sickle and Hammer" and in the absence of these medals, is worn in their position." Someone obviously thought it a high award!Regards,Gordon
Bob Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 These for foreigners are quite rare, in fact, not even seen a document yet. Are the doc's for foreigners in any way special?
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