David Robertson Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Hi guys I have a chance to pick up this badge as well as one other one.I bleave it's a first pattern badge. I would like to get other opinions on it.Also what would be a fair price for it IF it's ok?? Thanks in advance David Robertson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Robertson Posted March 15, 2009 Author Share Posted March 15, 2009 Hi guys I have a chance to pick up this badge as well as one other one.I bleave it's a first pattern badge. I would like to get other opinions on it.Also what would be a fair price for it IF it's ok?? Thanks in advance David Robertson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Calvert Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Dave, It's actually a second pattern badge, with more tombak showing through than normal, which is fine as long as it's not a result of over cleaning by an ambitious collector. Asking what it is worth is a tough question. THE right guy might pay a million dollars for it...which equates to about Euro 670. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Gordon Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 TCLess of the J?germeister ! Isn't this the J3 eagle?This is J1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Gordon Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 This is J2 (note the slightly different head shape. Wreath is the same) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Gordon Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 This is the J3 (different eagle) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Calvert Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 TCLess of the J?germeister ! Isn't this the J3 eagle?Ha Ha! Ooops! Yep, you're right Rich! I didn't look very closely! Drinking and posting can be a bad thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraut Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Ha Ha! Ooops! Yep, you're right Rich! I didn't look very closely! Drinking and posting can be a bad thing!Hello,Gentleman,s here my B&NL badge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraut Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Hello,Gentleman,s here my B&NL badgeReserve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Temple-West Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 KI would very much like to see some clearer pictures of this badge. There are some very good copies of the "B&NL" ROAG out there. Going on there pictures, I'm not seeing certain characteristics that I would like to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraut Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 KI would very much like to see some clearer pictures of this badge. There are some very good copies of the "B&NL" ROAG out there. Going on there pictures, I'm not seeing certain characteristics that I would like to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Temple-West Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 And a clear shot of the reverse, if possible, K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraut Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 And a clear shot of the reverse, if possible, K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Gordon Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 KrautYour B&N looks soft in places and there are a few things about it that look odd like the catch and the hinge.Here's a few pics to compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Gordon Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Last.Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Temple-West Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Thanks for the new pictures, K. Much better!Always better to get more than one opinion...but mine is that this is a cast copy of an original badge.The softness of features of the obverse could be due to wear...but, for me, the reverse tells the tale.If compared with a textbook example (below) of a nickel silver or buntmetal ROAG by this maker, the differences in construction and finish are clear.All original badges of this type that I've come across have the same die mark to the reverse of the wreath, something that copies do not. The rivets, although close, are not typical, and the same for the catch/hinge. Let's see what other members think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Temple-West Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Comparison of an original (left) and the badge in question (right).Obverse: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Temple-West Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Reverse: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraut Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Reverse:Thanks,Gent,all information! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodeye Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Hi Kraut,i don?t like it too. I think it is a fake.greetswoodeye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Hi Kraut,i don?t like it too. I think it is a fake.greetswoodeyeHello!I agree.All the bestNesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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