HeikoGrusdat Posted July 16, 2009 Posted July 16, 2009 Hi all,can someone help me out with the name of that general here.... a lot of interesting stuff on his body!!!For the most of you maybe the orders around his neck are the most interesting thing here - for me it is the Jerusalem cross... unfortunately you can`t see the whole medal bar.... but nevertheless - a great picture!!!The photo is dated 1906 thanks for all helpHeiko
Komtur Posted July 16, 2009 Posted July 16, 2009 (edited) Reichskanzler Bernhard F?rst von B?low.Gr??e, Komtur.PS: Heiko, you definitely need a scanner :rolleyes: Edited July 16, 2009 by Komtur
HeikoGrusdat Posted July 16, 2009 Author Posted July 16, 2009 Thank you for your help!!! Is this the uniform of the Bonner K?nigshusaren where he was in 1870 or what uniform is this???
Mike Dwyer Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 (edited) Thank you for your help!!! Is this the uniform of the Bonner K?nigshusaren where he was in 1870 or what uniform is this???Heiko,The photo is stamped 1906. I looked in the 1914 Rangliste and he is listed as being in Husaren-Regiment K?nig Wilhelm I (1. Rheinisches) Nr.7, which was stationed in Bonn, so I just now figured out that must be the Bonner K?nigshusaren you are referring to! :speechless: Edited July 17, 2009 by Mike Dwyer
Mike Dwyer Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Man, look at that Schwarzer Adler.Yeah! Wouldn't you like to have that cross and breast star in your collection!!!! According to the 1914 Rangliste what we can see here isn't even half of what he had!!!
Mike Dwyer Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 (edited) Well, since I had the day off today, instead of doing something useful around the house I just spent the last several hours trying to read the 1914 Rangliste and made a listing of his awards. I've probably made some mistakes, but here's what I came up with:Prussia:Schwartzer=Adler=Orden mit Kette und BrillantenKronen=Orden 1.KlasseK?niglicher Haus=Orden von Hohenzollern Gro?komturkreuzJohanniterorden RechtsritterLandwehrdienstauszeichnung 1.KlasseAnhalt:Albrecht des B?ren Orden Gro?kreuzBaden:Haus=Orden der TreueOrden vom Z?hringer L?wen Gro?kreuz mit EichenlaubBavaria:Haus=Ritterorden von Heiligen HubertusVerdienstorden der Bayerischen Krone Gro?kreuzBrunswick:Heinrich des L?wen Orden Gro?kreuzHesse:Ludewigs=Orden Gro?kreuzVerdienstorden Phillip des Grossm?tigen Gro?kreuzLippe:Lippischerhaus=Orden Ehrenkreuz 1.KlasseMecklenburg:Orden der Wendischen Krone Gro?kreuz mit der krone in GoldGreifenorden Gro?kreuzMecklenburg-Strelitzisches Verdienstkreuz fur Auszeichnung im KriegeOldenburg:Haus=und Verdienstorden des Herzogs Peter Friedrich Ludwig Ehrengro?kreuz mit Kette und Gold KroneSaxony:Orden der RautenkroneAlbrechts=Orden Gro?kreuz mit goldenem SternSaxon Duchies:Sachsen=Ernestinischer Haus=Orden Gro?kreuzSchaumburg-Lippe:Schaumburg=Lippischer=Haus=Orden Ehrenkreuz 1.KlasseW?rttemberg:Orden der W?rttenbergischen Krone Gro?kreuzFriedrichs=Orden Gro?kreuz mit KroneEthiopia:Stern von ?thiopien Gro?kreuzBelgium:Leopold=Orden Gro?kreuzBulgaria:St. Alexander-Orden Gro?kreuz mit BrillantenChina:Orden vom doppelten Drachen 1.Klasse (not sure about the class on this one)Denmark:ElefantenordenFrance:Ehrenlegion KomturGreece:Erl?serorden Gro?kreuzBritain:Viktoria=Orden Gro?kreuzJapan:Paullomnia=OrdenItaly:Annunziaten OrdenSt. Mauritus=und=Lazarus=Orden Gro?kreuzOrden der Italienischer Krone RitterkreuzMonaco:Orden des heiligen Karl Gro?kreuzMontenegro:Tschernagorischer Unabh?ngigkeitsorden Gro?kreuzNetherlands:L?wenorden Gro?kreuzAustria-Hungary:Ungarischer St. Stephan=Orden Gro?kreuzLeopold-Orden Gro?kreuzOrden der Eisernen Krone 3.KlassePersia:L?wen=und=Sonnenorden, Orden der heiligkeit: Guds=OrdenL?wen=und=Sonnenorden, Gro?kreuzPortugal:Turm und Schwertorden Gro?kreuz mit KetteRumania:Orden Karl I Gro?kreuz mit KetteStern von Rumanien Gro?kreuzOrden der Rumanischen Krone Gro?kreuzRussia:St. Andreas=Orden mit BrillantenSweden:Seraphim=OrdenSerbia:Wei?er=Adler=Orden Gro?kreuzSiam:Wei?er=Elefants=Orden Gro?kreuzSpain:Goldenes VliesKarl III. Orden Gro?kreuzOrden Isabella der Katholischen Komturkreuz mit SternTuscany:St. Josephs=Orden Gro?kreuz mit BrillantenOttoman Empire:Goldene Imtiaz=MedailleSilberne Imtiaz=MedailleNischan=i=ImtiazOsmanie=Orden 1.Klasse mit BrillantenTunisia:Istikhar Gro?offizier Edited July 17, 2009 by Mike Dwyer
HeikoGrusdat Posted July 17, 2009 Author Posted July 17, 2009 (edited) Hi Mike,thank you so much for this great help !!! Maybe it would have been easier to write down what orders he DID NOT receive........ Next time when you have a problem I will spend my day not in the garden but over the books !!!best wishesHeiko Edited July 17, 2009 by HeikoGrusdat
VtwinVince Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Holy cow, he must have looked like a real "Weihnachtsbaum" when wearing all those orders.
TacHel Posted July 18, 2009 Posted July 18, 2009 Holy cow, he must have looked like a real "Weihnachtsbaum" when wearing all those orders.I doubt any uniform fabric could've handled all of his awards at the same time. We've seen many members of this forum purchase separate ODMs to make up Von Richthofen's set... Can you imagine trying it with this guy?
Mike Dwyer Posted July 18, 2009 Posted July 18, 2009 I doubt any uniform fabric could've handled all of his awards at the same time. We've seen many members of this forum purchase separate ODMs to make up Von Richthofen's set... Can you imagine trying it with this guy?I think you're absolutely right! Not only the fabric....I don't think there's enough room to put them. I may be off, but I believe he's got around 45 orders that have breast stars, even if he put them on both sides of his tunic, he couldn't possibly fit them all on there.
Wild Card Posted July 18, 2009 Posted July 18, 2009 :Cat-Scratch: Bling? Meet General of Infantry Dr. Eduard von Peucker, 1791 - 1876. Here is an example that, in my opinion, approaches being something other than German - North Korea comes to mind.Wish that I could make this picture larger so that you could really see the details of all this. :banger:
HeikoGrusdat Posted July 18, 2009 Author Posted July 18, 2009 :speechless1: holy cow ............................................. unbelievable !!!!
TacHel Posted July 18, 2009 Posted July 18, 2009 Bling? Meet General of Infantry Dr. Eduard von Peucker, 1791 - 1876. Here is an example that, in my opinion, approaches being something other than German - North Korea comes to mind.Wish that I could make this picture larger so that you could really see the details of all this. And if you count them... It is but a mere fraction of the number of ODMs our main character has...
Komtur Posted July 18, 2009 Posted July 18, 2009 May be some of us did not know Ferdinand, IMHO the master of all bling :speechless:
TacHel Posted July 18, 2009 Posted July 18, 2009 These guys would've HATED going through airport metal detectors... Oh, for the simpler days of yore...
saschaw Posted July 18, 2009 Posted July 18, 2009 Man, look at that Schwarzer Adler.Unfortunally I can only see its star, would really like also to see the cross. That on his neck is "only" the RAO grand cross m.E. Just in case someone didn't notice.
Mike Dwyer Posted July 18, 2009 Posted July 18, 2009 Unfortunally I can only see its star, would really like also to see the cross. That on his neck is "only" the RAO grand cross m.E. Just in case someone didn't notice. See, there's always someone around with a better set of eyes! I honestly hadn't noticed that the neck cross was the RAO, I thought it was the Black Eagle, but now I see that it isn't. :speechless:
Guest Rick Research Posted July 18, 2009 Posted July 18, 2009 Aww, THAT'S not a Black Eagle and Red Eagle-Grand Cross combo... here's nicely understated elegance, "pure Prussian," everything else left off. Note the loops all over his tunic for squishing things in when he REALLY felt like dressing up. Black Eagle star and sash as is proper, and sash badge for Grand Cross of Red Eagle Order worn at the throat with...swords on ringcrownand(huff puff)oakleaves. :catjava:
medalnet Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 .. - North Korea comes to mind.Wish that I could make this picture larger so that you could really see the details of all this. Funny, that those Korean have the same bold head, not that I don't have one, but at least standing 6'4"
medalnet Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 Everybody being awarded the Black Eagle Order was automatically holder of the Red Eagle Order "en satur" (on neck, as the french would say). Check this one out, it came from one of those folks and was presented on a small neck ribbon in a smal case just for the cross - no star. Maybe you find the little oddity hidden in this particular cross.
Mike Dwyer Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 (edited) Aww, THAT'S not a Black Eagle and Red Eagle-Grand Cross combo... here's nicely understated elegance, "pure Prussian," everything else left off. Note the loops all over his tunic for squishing things in when he REALLY felt like dressing up. Black Eagle star and sash as is proper, and sash badge for Grand Cross of Red Eagle Order worn at the throat with...swords on ringcrownand(huff puff)oakleaves. Rick, I find it interesting that he wears his EK1 above his breast star of the Black Eagle. Usually you see the breast stars worn on top. Personal preference? Perhaps he tought the EK1 "said" a lot more than his Black Eagle. :rolleyes: Edited July 19, 2009 by Mike Dwyer
Mike Dwyer Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 Hint: " The drunken Eagle"Yes, isn't one of the eagles facing the wrong way?
Wild Card Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 Yes, isn't one of the eagles facing the wrong way?Yes, the one at seven o'clock?
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