hipnos Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Hello gents...!! I came across this good looking Imperial german bar but I don´t understant why the war aid cross takes precendence on the red eagle ordr... Can somebody explain this to me?? thanks to all beforehand I wish you Mery christmas and a better 2010 (A Space odissey -part two-) Regards Miguel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipnos Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 The reverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavalMark Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Hello, the war-aid cross counts as a decoration awarded for war-service. So it was worn before any civil decoration like the RAO. Best wishes and merry christmas Markus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeikoGrusdat Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Exactly.... of course non-combattant awards BUT war awards !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Nice "pure Prussian" non-combattant bar Regards, Komtur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipnos Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 (edited) Nice "pure Prussian" non-combattant bar Regards, Komtur. Aw!! Fully understand now...Thanks gents!!! Have merry christmas!!! Miguel By the way, The RAO is always a civil decoration, or it could be w/s and be a war decoration??? Edited December 21, 2009 by hipnos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRBeery Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 With swords it can be a war decoration. Are you buying this bar? It has been for sale for a while. http://cgi.ebay.com/WW1-Germany-Prussia-4-Medal-Bar-non-combat-Iron-Cross_W0QQitemZ230414855965QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item35a5cbaf1d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 By the way, The RAO is always a civil decoration, or it could be w/s and be a war decoration??? It can be a war decoration: 1.) on black ribbon with white stripes and X 2.) on white ribbon with black stripes and X 3.) on white ribbon with black stripes Regards, Komtur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipnos Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 With swords it can be a war decoration. Are you buying this bar? It has been for sale for a while. http://cgi.ebay.com/WW1-Germany-Prussia-4-Medal-Bar-non-combat-Iron-Cross_W0QQitemZ230414855965QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item35a5cbaf1d A "bit" expensive, but, yes, this is the bar I´m seeing... thanks Miguel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipnos Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 It can be a war decoration: 1.) on black ribbon with white stripes and X 2.) on white ribbon with black stripes and X 3.) on white ribbon with black stripes Regards, Komtur. Thanks, I´ve Understand... Regards Miguel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRBeery Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 (edited) A "bit" expensive, but, yes, this is the bar I´m seeing... thanks Miguel Send him an offer and see if he will sell it cheaper. It has been there for a couple of months at this price. If you need help in the US let me know. Edited December 21, 2009 by CRBeery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 It can be a war decoration: 1.) on black ribbon with white stripes and X 2.) on white ribbon with black stripes and X 3.) on white ribbon with black stripes Regards, Komtur. I think those awarded on black ribbon with white stripes (without swords) would qualify as "war" awards as well. However, the question is answered. :beer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipnos Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 I think those awarded on black ribbon with white stripes (without swords) would qualify as "war" awards as well. However, the question is answered. Thanks to all of you Miguel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacHel Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Komtur, that's a BE-AU-TI-FUL set!! Why no Wilhelm der Grosse Centennial medal? The bearer made it to 1897 since he has the 25 year leaves on his Ek2... Just curious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Komtur, that's a BE-AU-TI-FUL set!! Why no Wilhelm der Grosse Centennial medal? The bearer made it to 1897 since he has the 25 year leaves on his Ek2... Just curious... Who knows? But this is not the only original bar from 1897 or later I´ve seen without the Centennial medal. Regards, Komtur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeikoGrusdat Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Komtur, that's a BE-AU-TI-FUL set!! Why no Wilhelm der Grosse Centennial medal? The bearer made it to 1897 since he has the 25 year leaves on his Ek2... Just curious... No , not curious at all... this bar dates exactly from the years 1895-1897 because the oakleaves were given out in 1895 for the 25 year jubilee of the 1870 war !!! Centennial medal comes in 1897 , so we have the small time gap of two years when this bar must have been made.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacHel Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 No , not curious at all... this bar dates exactly from the years 1895-1897 because the oakleaves were given out in 1895 for the 25 year jubilee of the 1870 war !!! Centennial medal comes in 1897 , so we have the small time gap of two years when this bar must have been made.... Good point... This is the first time I've seen a Red Eagle Order on a non-combattant ribbon, absolutely awesome set!:jumping: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azyeoman Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Hello, the war-aid cross counts as a decoration awarded for war-service. So it was worn before any civil decoration like the RAO. Best wishes and merry christmas Markus Do you know why the person would have had the War Aid Cross mounted with the reverse forward. I've seen this a few times and have always wondered why? Thanks in advance for any help in understanding this. All the best and Happy New Year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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