Erik Krogh Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 here are some KM plaques from my collection. First up is a U-373 shield very similar to the one pictured on page 363 of "Torpedo los!" Interesting that the black cat logo is at the bottom, but 373 was attached to the 3rd flotilla, whose logo was the turtle. The lion shield on the top left is correct for the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Krogh Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 This is a brass U-Boat plaque that came in the grouping with the previous shield for U-373. An oil painting of the boat was the third piece in the grouping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Krogh Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 A shield from the Panzerschiff Deutschland. This came with a grouping from Paul Wirtz, who transferred to the U-Bootwaffe and served on U-31 until she was sunk on November 2, 1940. Herr Wirtz was captured and spent the rest of the war in captivity in Canada, and I have a number of his POW effects as part of the grouping. I will post later. Interestingly, U-31 is the only U-Boat to have been sunk twice by enemy action (it was raised and put back into service in July 1940). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Krogh Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 Minesweeper shield with silhouette of Africa. A similar plaque is pictured on page 421 of Angolia/Schlicht "Die Kriegsmarine" Volume 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Krogh Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 Type XXI U-Boat plaque. This came from a grouping of Funkmeister Herbert Kupfermann, who is pictured on page 105 of "Torpedo los!" (with the pipe). Kupfermann served on U-127, U-653, and U-3038. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Krogh Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 U-653 plaque from the Kupfermann grouping. This looks like it could be post-war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Wolfe Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Hi Erik, Please excuse my ignorance about things German, but where would these have been hung? Were they for the crew members themselves or were they displayed in the mess? I been a guest at different Canadian Forces Officer's and Sergeant's messes over the years and saw plaques from different regiments displayed there and I am wondering if this was the same sort of tradition in this case. Regards Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Krogh Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 U-515 hand-carved bowl from the boat's first cruise. The dates and sunk tonnage roughly correspond to research in Kenneth Wynn's "U-Boat Operations of the Second World War". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Krogh Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 Hi Erik, Please excuse my ignorance about things German, but where would these have been hung? Were they for the crew members themselves or were they displayed in the mess? I been a guest at different Canadian Forces Officer's and Sergeant's messes over the years and saw plaques from different regiments displayed there and I am wondering if this was the same sort of tradition in this case. Regards Brian Brian, I don't have any photographs of actual wartime usage, but my guess is that these plaques would be hung in the mess as well as hung in homes of crew members and families. Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Krogh Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 A smaller bowl from the U-515 set. These items are attributed to the boat's LI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Interesting items Erik and i would imagine very rare. I would also presume that they were produced in small numbers and not mass produced? Regards,Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Krogh Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 Interesting items Erik and i would imagine very rare. I would also presume that they were produced in small numbers and not mass produced? Regards,Martin. Martin, Thanks for the post. Most of these plaques were hand-made or were produced in very limited quantities. Of course its difficult to verify authenticity since they are mostly unique. I try to get them in groupings, which seems to give their period credentials some veracity (at least to me). All The Best, Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Krogh Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) A pair of U-701 commerative plates. Although both of these plates are damaged, they are nonetheless interesting for the sinkings that they commerate. The boat's logo (a fish) and the logo of the 3rd U-Flotilla (turtle) can be seen as well as "kill pennants". Edited January 17, 2010 by Erik Krogh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Krogh Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 Plate for sinking the SS Baron Erskine on January 6, 1942. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Krogh Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) Revese of the SS Baron Erskine plate. The tonnage was a bit exaggerated (the correct tonnage was 3675 according to Wynn). Edited January 17, 2010 by Erik Krogh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Krogh Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 Plate commemorating the sinking of SS William Rockefeller on June 29, 1942 (Wynn marks this date as June 28). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Krogh Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 Reverse of the SS William Rockefeller plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2dresq Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Really quite fascinating. I personally did not realize that these traditions and plaque makings would have existed. Thanks for sharing. The U-515 is most interesting in my opinion. You have quite a collection of rare and beautiful U-boat/KM memorabilia. From these to the Tradition badges. I am always in awe. with your items. Regards, Justin 2dresq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardT Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Erik, another version of this plaque, apparently re-painted at some point in time. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardT Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Now with an attachment. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Krogh Posted January 18, 2010 Author Share Posted January 18, 2010 Really quite fascinating. I personally did not realize that these traditions and plaque makings would have existed. Thanks for sharing. The U-515 is most interesting in my opinion. You have quite a collection of rare and beautiful U-boat/KM memorabilia. From these to the Tradition badges. I am always in awe. with your items. Regards, Justin 2dresq Thanks for your kind words, Justin. I really like the personal handmade items, particularly traditions badges - they help tell the story of what life must have been like on the boats. U-515 has always been a most interesting boat for me, particularly after reading "Lone Wolf" by Timothy Mulligan awhile back. Best, Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardT Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Similar to your #2. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardT Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 And an E-boat representative. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Krogh Posted January 18, 2010 Author Share Posted January 18, 2010 Now with an attachment. Richard Richard, We seem to have the same collecting tastes! 12th war patrol badge, U-170 soldbuch, and now this. You always seem to one-up me ;-) Thanks for posting. Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storage133 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 (edited) Hello gents, great plaques. Some i never saw befor. Many thanks for sharing them with us. Here is my only plaques. It from the german imperial submarine UC 75. It was a UC II Mine Layer, build in 1916 on the Hamburger Vulcan Werke. Best regards Sto Edited January 18, 2010 by storage133 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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