christerd Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Got this Photo recently, but do it show ? Is it one of the gigantic mobile Howitzers ? Or is it some super mortar ?? Nothing written on the back Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muckaroon1960 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Hi, this looks like a Krups Big Bertha super heavy Howitzer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richarddwh Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Great photo, a real beast of an artillery piece! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapten_windu Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 i ever see this kind before in a military magazine, it used in eastern front, near sevastopol, it's a kind of mortar.. but i'm sorry, my memory on it can't be re-called...:speechless: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted November 19, 2010 Author Share Posted November 19, 2010 Could it a KARL Mortar ? I can´t find any good pics from the front of that one ..... KARL was made in 60 cm and 54 cm if my info is right ? I looks really awsome Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 (edited) I haven't seen this yet - but I'm not a WW2 Wehrmacht artillery expert. But it definitely looks to be about 42cm, which might make the Krups Big Bertha a suspect - however, those were developed at the beginning of WW1 and I don't believe they made it to the Second War. It also doesn't appear like the Big Bertha's I've seen in photos. Of course, it could be a modified version of a 42cm super howitzer developed later. Edited November 19, 2010 by IrishGunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 I am sure it is not the 60cm KARL. Here is that beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 This looks like the Eastern Front; what about a captured Soviet heavy mortar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted November 19, 2010 Author Share Posted November 19, 2010 (edited) Hmm, strange one this, I´ve looked for Soviet ones but the biggest Mortar was 240 mm and it dosnt look a bit like the pic But I agree that it seems to be at the Eastern front , but what in heavens name is it I found another candidate ! 38 cm schwerer Ladungswerfer This gun does not exist today what I can find and I haven´t found any pic of it yet .... maybe ? Christer Edited November 19, 2010 by christerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 I found another candidate ! 38 cm schwerer Ladungswerfer This gun does not exist today what I can find and I haven´t found any pic of it yet .... maybe ? I wondered about this one too... Isn't this an engineer weapon? Can anyone ID if the uniforms are gunners or pioneers? My spider-senses are saying though that this is something Soviet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapten_windu Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 one more, it's looks like a stationary weapon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Maybe it could be a french mortar, 279mm, M14. This was was built for Russia. In 1939 France had stil 135 guns. Maybe some of them were sent to Russia in wwI? I copied this picture from Franz Kosar´s book "Artillerie im 20. Jahrhundert" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Another choice. 42cm Mörser (Gamma). This one was built with parts of the Gamma-Mörser from the first world war. It was placed in Meppen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share Posted December 11, 2010 (edited) Thanks Andy ! That was two new candidates best regards christer Edited December 11, 2010 by christerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Thanks Andy ! That was two new candidates best regards christer Andy's suggestion of a 42cm in Post #13 is actually a second vote for my guess in Post #6 of a 42cm; and after seeing Andy's pictures from WW2, I'm now even more convinced this is a modified version of the 42cm Gamma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Andy's suggestion of a 42cm in Post #13 is actually a second vote for my guess in Post #6 of a 42cm; and after seeing Andy's pictures from WW2, I'm now even more convinced this is a modified version of the 42cm Gamma. I agree with you, but in the book I read, I´ve found, that the only one gun was placed in Meppen. Not sure, if there were built more than one, and if yes, if they were sent to the eastern front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 I agree with you, but in the book I read, I´ve found, that the only one gun was placed in Meppen. Not sure, if there were built more than one, and if yes, if they were sent to the eastern front Given the proclivity to re-cycle old war material and improvise by the Germans, it makes logical sense for there to be more than just one. But like many improvisations, they might not have been well documented. Chris's photo could be the only evidence of this "other" gun. Great discussion though - detective missions are always fun! And in the search, other things are always learned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 (edited) Well, to make it more confusely, I read, the germans had another foreign gun in use. The austrian "42cm M16 Autohaubitze". This was was built 1916 and 1917, but stil in use by german troops in 39-45! Photo taken from Franz Kosar (Artillerie im 20. Jahrhundert) Edited December 12, 2010 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Franz Kosar (Artillerie im 20. Jahrhundert) Another book for my Christmas wish list. Santa Claus better get "her" butt on Amazon.com in a hurry! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Oh yes, it´s a nice book! at ebay you can buy it for 10€. Low price for high quality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytop Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Hi, I agree with The Prussian, see Post 12. I think, that it is the French Mortar 28cm 601 (f) Please see here: http://forum.axishis...p?f=70&t=147066 and here: http://de.wikipedia....rser_601%28f%29 and here, see "Used by": http://en.wikipedia...._1914_Schneider Uwe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted March 1, 2011 Author Share Posted March 1, 2011 :cheers: Thats it ! Thank you all, it´s good when you find the answer at the end A French 28 cm Schneider , maybe used on the Leningrad front 1941-42 ? I this forum Best regards Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 I agree with loving this forum! Greetings from good old Prussia!!!! :beer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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