Chip Posted October 22, 2006 Posted October 22, 2006 Jens,This piece is in very fine condition. I would agree that it is a private purchase piece. Chip
Tony Posted October 22, 2006 Posted October 22, 2006 Nice one Jens.Do you know when they stopped using cord covers or were they issued with felt and cord covers at the same time, depending on the materials to hand?Tony
JensF. Posted October 23, 2006 Posted October 23, 2006 Tony, no, thats an information I search too. The canteen came together with a privately purchased map pouch and other stuff, which belonged to a Vizewachtmeister and maybe artillery observer of FAR 95, so I think this stuff is WW1 period. I also got his Feldartillerie-Tabellenbuch with shooting tables etc. A really scientific task, to make these guns hit...
Chip Posted October 23, 2006 Posted October 23, 2006 (edited) Guys,Just from what I have seen, the M07 and M93 canteens came with a felt cover. Changes did not start being made until the shortages of early 1915. It was during this time that they started making the M07 screw cap canteen out of steel instead of aluminum. By late 1915 the pattern of issue had changed back to a variation of the M93 with the cork stopper, the so-called M1915. They were made first from tinned steel and then from enameled steel. Various materials were used to cover these canteens, as well as some of the other patterns (the medic's Labeflasche, for instance). I have seen wool, cotton canvas, papercloth and corduroy covers. Chip Edited October 23, 2006 by Chip
Chris Boonzaier Posted February 20, 2013 Author Posted February 20, 2013 Here is one with a cord cover...
Chris Boonzaier Posted February 20, 2013 Author Posted February 20, 2013 A really nice Bing18 I guess it is missing a cloth cover of some kind....
Chris Boonzaier Posted February 20, 2013 Author Posted February 20, 2013 And one from the battlefield at Verdun...
Hoss Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 And one from the battlefield at Verdun... Maybe the top was frozen and he wanted to get at the schnapps. Eric
Chris Boonzaier Posted February 24, 2013 Author Posted February 24, 2013 That green glass one is really cool!
Chip Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 That green glass one is really cool! Absolutely! ....and that issue M07 screw-top is not too shabby either!
peter monahan Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) I have been asked to identify a WWI canteen Edited April 4, 2014 by peter monahan
Chris Boonzaier Posted April 4, 2014 Author Posted April 4, 2014 Hi, a nice late war one I think? I wonder if they all had covers?
peter monahan Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 Thanks, Chris. I only 'processed' the "17." marking as a late war manufacture date after I made the post. I wondered about the covers too - did some come without, late war, or did it get so ratty somebody stripped it off and threw it away. This pievce came with an aluminum mess kit: cover/plate/fry pan + two pots/bowls + a two piece pierced wind screen and post support and a handle for the pots and can of solid fuel. I flet much better about breakimng the leather strap holding it all together once I established that it was Boy Scout - and not military!
Chip Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 The short harness identifies it as a M1917 pattern canteen.Chip
Hoss Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 Gents Recent addition bought locally I've not seen this large steel pattern before, flask marked W.M.F.15 Chip was kind enough to inform me, Württembergisches Metallwaren Fabrik. Eric
Chris Boonzaier Posted June 11, 2014 Author Posted June 11, 2014 The short harness identifies it as a M1917 pattern canteen. Chip Hi, did they also issue them without covers? Maybe the green enamle being enough?
Chip Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 For all of you that have wanted an mint condition Ersatz canteen with maker marked papercloth cover, there is a guy from the Czech Republic (no, not the repro guys) selling them on the WAF. They are 100% good and they found a warehouse with nearly 100 of these 1918 dated canteens. So far, they have only found one glass version in all of that. All the rest are steel. Anyway, it's one of those deals were he has a lot now, but they will be gone quickly as he told me that some dealers are buying 10 to 20 of them. There are plenty of good photos. Check it out. Chip
Chip Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 Chris, I doubt it. They would make and awful racket. Chip
Chip Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 In looking back through this thread, I realized that though I had spoken of my M15 canteen for mounted artillery personnel, I had not posted any pictures. Chip
Hoss Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 Back a bit I managed to find another glass job with better cover markings. Eric
Jock Auld Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 Eric, The bottle on post 41 is a good looking piece of kit what with webbing straps and all, if it had no date you would think perhaps WW2 issue, seems ahead of its time. Jock
Hoss Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 Hey Jock hope you are well yes its a strange puppy I doubt the felt cover is correct though I thought maybe its an artillery canteen until Chip posted his.... rats!! Cheers
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