NavyFCO Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 All:I'm trying to track down some award groups to British generals from WW2. I am certain that some of them have to be in museums somewhere! Part of the task is also figuring out who some of these guys are (those marked with "?") Some are instantly recognizable, others are unknown to me. Any help is appreciated! Thanks!DaveHere's the list, almost all containing just last names, and the spelling may or may not be right as they were phonetically transliterated:Alexander (Field Marshal)U. M. Biverbruck (?)A. Bruck (?)A. HarrisO. Littleton (?)B. L. MontgomeryD. Tovey (?)B. Freizer (?)T. L. MalloryG. D. Krirar (from Canada) (?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gregory Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Alexander (Field Marshal)U. M. Biverbruck (?)A. Bruck (?)A. HarrisO. Littleton (?)B. L. MontgomeryD. Tovey (?)B. Freizer (?)T. L. MalloryG. D. Krirar (from Canada) (?)Dave,The names should probably read as follows:Alexander (Field Marshal)U. M. BeaverbrookA. BrookA. HarrisO. Littleton (?)B. L. MontgomeryD. Tovey (?)B. FrazerT. L. MalloryG. D. Crerar (from Canada)David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Not the medals locations, but mini-careers can be found probably for all of these at Steen Ammentorp's site:http://www.generals.dksince he does EVERYBODY'S and not just "our" Soviets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Pretty certain Monty's are at the Imperial War Museum in London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Ed,They are there!!! As you know, I have photographied all Monty's orders, medals and ribbon bars. Maybe a good idea for a future thread ?Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Actually, Christophe, I did remember that. I was just waiting for you to say it. As far as "Bomber" Harris is concerned, I think his are at the RAF Museum outrside of London? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter monahan Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 General H.D.G. CrerarCollege No. 749PC, CH, CB, DSO, CD, ADC Crerar graduated from RMC in 1909. He served as a artillery officer in the First World War and held various appointments in the years between the wars. He was Commandant of RMC when war broke out again in 1939. Crerar commanded the First Canadian Army from 1944 to 1945. Best guess: Crerar's gongs are either at Royal Military College (RMC), Kingston, Ontario, Canada or in the Canadian War Museum. Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. Hope this is some small help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Best guess: Crerar's gongs are either at Royal Military College (RMC), Kingston, Ontario, Canada or in the Canadian War Museum. Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. Hope this is some small helpYou are correct Peter. Gen Crerar's medals are at RMCRef: http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/community/map..._Entrenous14-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Actually, Christophe, I did remember that. I was just waiting for you to say it. (...) Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted January 8, 2006 Author Share Posted January 8, 2006 Guys:Thanks so much so far for your help! I've e-mailed the curator at the RMC Museum in Canada and am on to tracking down some others. Keep it coming! Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 I'll post some pics and details about Monty as soon as possible.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus H Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Dave,Are you sure it's D Tovey ? Because theres the famous Admiral Tovey, a Jack I think that springs to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted January 10, 2006 Author Share Posted January 10, 2006 Dave,Are you sure it's D Tovey ? Because theres the famous Admiral Tovey, a Jack I think that springs to mind.I'm certain that's it. Thanks! Transliterated into Russian, "Jack" would be "Djak", which when going from Cyrillic back into English would end up as an initial "D" vice "J". Any clue where Jack Tovey's medals might be??? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus H Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 I'll see what I can find out for you Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny956 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 (edited) The Trafford Leigh Mallory and Arthur Harris groups are at the RAFM at Hendon.Wonder about Beaverbrook tho'. Are you talking about Lord Beaverbrook the paper magnate and wartime Minister for Aircraft Production? Edited January 12, 2006 by jonny956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted January 12, 2006 Author Share Posted January 12, 2006 (edited) Wonder about Beaverbrook tho'. Are you talking about Lord Beaverbrook the paper magnate and wartime Minister for Aircraft Production?I'm guessing that sounds like it could be the right guy! According to my search, his initials were W. M. and the "W" when transliterated would normally end up as a "V", but in this case it may well have ended up as a "U". Now that I know that's him, I wonder where his stuff went.... Dave Edited January 12, 2006 by NavyFCO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter monahan Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Now that I know that's him, I wonder where his stuff went.... DaveDaveBeaverbrook die in England but his ashes are in Fredrickton, New Brunswick, Canada, in the base of a statue to him. (He was a local paperboy made good!) There is also a Beaverbrook Gallery there with a very good collection of art he acquired and later donated but also, apparently some stuff in England, where his (bankrupt) grandson is trying to re-coup the family fortunes. Try looking for "The Beaverbrook Foundation", which administers his estate and many charities, and see what info they have.Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted January 13, 2006 Author Share Posted January 13, 2006 Try looking for "The Beaverbrook Foundation", which administers his estate and many charities, and see what info they have.Thanks Peter!For all:I've gotten in touch with the RMC museum and RAF Herndon and both have been extremely helpful to me in my search. Thanks for all the help thus far!Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 I'll post some pics and details about Monty as soon as possible.Ch.I have begun posting Monty's orders and medals, as displayed in the Imperial War Museum in London, here :http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=4894Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Germ Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Monty's WW1 trio in the IWM are the replacements issued to him in the 1960s after some B&*^"!d stole the originals.John Germ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 You're correct.You will find attached what the Imperial War Museum says about it.That's why some of the medals exhibited are replacement ones, and notably the WW1 ones. But it remains that most orders are original.Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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