lambert Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 Some private companies such as M. Deland .. had in their catalog models in silver.but I never saw such medals in silver.
johnnymac Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) This one was posted one this site. I think Rob is the owner "or" poster of this item a Happy U.S.A. Thanksgiving to all Jim Edited November 26, 2013 by johnnymac
RobW Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) This one was posted one this site. I think Rob is the owner "or" poster of this item a Happy U.S.A. Thanksgiving to all Jim 00.jpg Hello Jim, Poster and Owner: Yes. Regards, Rob Edited November 27, 2013 by RobW
lambert Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 This one was posted one this site. I think Rob is the owner "or" poster of this item a Happy U.S.A. Thanksgiving to all Jim 00.jpg Definitely this is not fake. beautiful Lambert
lambert Posted May 5, 2014 Posted May 5, 2014 Hello to all. Does anyone know any article about the false Polish Victory medal? Lambert
RobW Posted May 5, 2014 Posted May 5, 2014 Hello to all. Does anyone know any article about the false Polish Victory medal? Lambert Hello Lambert, There has been one particular article, written quite a few years ago, that had the initial details on the 'discovery' of these Polish victory medals. I do have a copy of the article but I shall need to trawl through some storage boxes to find it. It may take some time as my collection is not located with me. As far as I can recall the article had the background where the purported items were found in some boxes at a militaria show. The details are pure fiction, written I believe, to lend credibility to the items so that they could sell as a commercial and 'scarce' item. Of course, knowledgeable collectors already know that Poland did not issue a victory medal and their first campaign medal, was that awarded for the 1918-1921 wars; which shaped the borders of Poland. Unfortunately these fake Polish items are only good enough to fool the inexperienced or new collector that neither has the Laslo reference work or the acess to such a form as this. Regards, Rob
lambert Posted May 6, 2014 Posted May 6, 2014 Thanks Rob, I wait but this information has also told with the help of our friend Bilco.I hope to write a bit more about the "Polish Vic", I admit, is an interesting item. Regards Lambert
lambert Posted December 5, 2014 Posted December 5, 2014 Another fake Vic Portugal (now with signature !!!) ..I have seen it somewhere .. http://www.ebay.com/itm/WW-1-PORTUGAL-Victory-Medal-RARE-engraved-by-Da-Silva-MCMXIX-Interallied-Medal-/231406384794?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35e0e5369a Lambert
johnnymac Posted December 5, 2014 Posted December 5, 2014 Hello Lambert, welcome back. I ask you, have you look at the new posting in the Portuguese vic section. This medal you just posted above has been talked about there. Regards Jim
ThaiDave Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) Hi All,It seems that Mike Shank has changed his ebay ID again, and now selling Victory medal fakes under the name "dlssha3"See here:http://www.ebay.com/sch/dlssha3/m.html?item=262087689306&hash=item3d05a4c45a&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562(PDF print attached for historical reference)He now identifies for example the Siam version as "VERY HARD TO FIND"(PDF print attached for historical reference)2015 10 11 dlssha3 _ eBay.pdf2015 10 11 FAKE WW1 Siam Thailand Victory Medal Full Size _ eBay.pdf Edited October 11, 2015 by ThaiDave
ThaiDave Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Posts of the Fake Siam version. (He has fakes of many or all of the others)
Tim B Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Hi Dave,Yes, lots of garbage there for sure. Must have needed to change his ID as the word continues to reach buyers about his wares. Good job!He is correct on one point though, even his fakes are rare to find in Thailand! Cheers! Tim
paul wood Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 E-bay I am sure was invented to part fools from their money.Paul
lambert Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 I can only regret that many people have so much garbage in the collection .. inevitably will never admit it.
RobW Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 On 10/20/2015 6:05:54, lambert said: I can only regret that many people have so much garbage in the collection .. inevitably will never admit it. Hello Lambert, I would agree that there are many collectors that probably have items in their collections that could be of 'dubious' background or provenance. Most either don't know for sure of are too hesitant to ask the questions here to confirm or deny their suspicions. It is advantageous to post such items here for reference so that all collectors can have the opportunity to identify known bogus examples as a base model for comparison. It is also handy to have such specimens in your collection knowing they are not the genuine article so that you can have the item in hand when purchasing a new piece. Regards, Rob
paul wood Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 The sad thing is that many collectors who are sold fakes are reluctant to believe they are, especially if they have paid a good sum of money for them. As an auctioneer I am frequently the bearer of sad tidings to next of kin when they inherit a supposedly fantastic collection where the original owner became a patsy of the fake purveyor. Paul
lambert Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 Hi A "Vic Polish" .. at Auction http://www.ebay.com/itm/POLISH-WW-I-VICTORY-MEDAL-SIGNED-ON-RIM-HALLMARKED-SMALL-EAGLE-/361453278886?hash=item54284b56a6:g:vuEAAOSwwE5WYOWP Merry Christmas to all! Lambert
Ura87 Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 Hi to all. I became interested in the cause of the Polish Victory Medal and found information that American Poles who fought in the Blue Army did not recognize veterans in either America or Poland, so they established their own commemorative medal. Maybe that was the Polish Victory Medal?
lambert Posted July 18, 2018 Posted July 18, 2018 On 12/04/2018 at 5:04 PM, Ura87 said: This medal is considered "a fantasy" , there is no evidence that it really was an official commemorative medal of the First World War. unfortunately. Lambert
Ura87 Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 On 18/07/2018 at 22:25, lambert said: This medal is considered "a fantasy" , there is no evidence that it really was an official commemorative medal of the First World War. unfortunately. Lambert I understand that, I want to understand why this fake is for Poland, and not Serbia, for example.
Egorka Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Ura87 said: I understand that, I want to understand why this fake is for Poland, and not Serbia, for example. Hello, I guess, because of the symbolism. Victory having the wings resembling the famed Polish hussars wings.
Bilco Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 Not the medal - the box! On eBay at the moment is a US Vic in a box with this label ... It's actually a WW II Victory medal box, with a bit of paper stuck over the end of the description to make it look like WW I ... Item # 11332447517 - but hurry - bids are up to $19 already ... Bill
johnnymac Posted November 4, 2018 Posted November 4, 2018 That a boy Bill great catch. Bill Is it not a big shame how people are looking to make things, something they are not.
RobW Posted December 19, 2022 Posted December 19, 2022 On 20/07/2018 at 08:28, Egorka said: Hello, I guess, because of the symbolism. Victory having the wings resembling the famed Polish hussars wings. Hello Egorka, The Serbians did produce a Great War medal but not one that is part of the Interallied Vic series. Regards, Rob 1
RobW Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 On 27/11/2013 at 01:08, lambert said: Some private companies such as M. Deland .. had in their catalog models in silver. but I never saw such medals in silver. Hi Lambert, There is a picture of a silvered version of this unofficial French example, by Delande, in the French vic sub-forum. Not seen that often but they do exist. Regards, Rob 1
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