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    both are prussian:

    the first is the allgemeines ehrenzeichen. note the

    ribbon similar to the red eagle order awards. it also

    has the large eye - der grosse ose.

    (all the better to see you with, goldilocks....)

    the second is the kriegshilfern kreuz, for non-

    combatants, and often for medical service/support.

    hope this helps.

    joe

    very tidy bar! watch out micha.

    they try to get bigger!

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    both are prussian:

    the first is the allgemeines ehrenzeichen. note the

    ribbon similar to the red eagle order awards. it also

    has the large eye - der grosse ose.

    (all the better to see you with, goldilocks....)

    the second is the kriegshilfern kreuz, for non-

    combatants, and often for medical service/support.

    hope this helps.

    joe

    very tidy bar! watch out micha.

    they try to get bigger!

    Thank you for the education Joe :cheers: There is so much to learn... :speechless1: That is what caught my attention(ribbon simular to that of the Red Eagle Order).

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