ccj Posted June 3, 2012 Posted June 3, 2012 1916 Bavarian Generals tunic for a GenLt. (1916 fieldgrey Bavarian Litewka pattern)
Chris Boonzaier Posted June 3, 2012 Posted June 3, 2012 ooooohhh... NICE! Do you have a name for him???
ccj Posted June 3, 2012 Author Posted June 3, 2012 Collar, 1916 pattern silver on grey for Bavarian general field tunic.
ccj Posted June 3, 2012 Author Posted June 3, 2012 (edited) I'm trying to figure this out. The family won't allw the name to be released as condition of them selling his uniforms. The other one was super nice with pants but I'm too poor for that... All I know at this point is enough to start researching. If I get enough clues I may ID him. GenLt from aristocratic family who lives outside of Munich in the family manor. ooooohhh... NICE! Do you have a name for him??? Edited June 3, 2012 by ccj
ccj Posted July 2, 2012 Author Posted July 2, 2012 Anyone have a spare Bav Military Merit order with Swords 2nd class?? :D
ccj Posted July 2, 2012 Author Posted July 2, 2012 (edited) Super quality Bavarian Generals Silber Tab Edited July 2, 2012 by ccj
Abzeichen Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 I love that Larrisch pattern embroidery. It really makes the uniform.
ccj Posted December 16, 2012 Author Posted December 16, 2012 From the research I'm convinced this tunic and the other Bavarian uniform that came out of the families home outside Munich belongs for von Hartz.
Chris Boonzaier Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 I am just soooooo bloody unbelieveby jealous..... But technically it could mean this was Fieldgray as well? http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/54007-bavarian-leib-officer/
ccj Posted December 16, 2012 Author Posted December 16, 2012 (edited) I have seen what only could be field grey versions of this tunic in photos. I don't have a lot of books so rely on the web. Edited December 16, 2012 by ccj
ccj Posted December 16, 2012 Author Posted December 16, 2012 If he was promoted to LdR in 1916 in may be field great
ccj Posted December 16, 2012 Author Posted December 16, 2012 Appears to be same cut. Look at breast pocket and the sleeve cuff
ccj Posted December 16, 2012 Author Posted December 16, 2012 Two pockets but silver collar tabs on this Bavarian generals tunic. I just cant find the other photo of the general I found with single pocket tunic.
ccj Posted December 16, 2012 Author Posted December 16, 2012 von Bothmer in a 1916 Bavarian tunic. This one is without Collar taps.
Chris Boonzaier Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 What are these on Ebay? Says Bavarian General...
Chris Boonzaier Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 Wow, interesting! Here you go... http://www.ebay.de/itm/RARITAT-Bayrische-Schulterklappen-u-Kragenspiegel-Bayrischer-General-RARITAT-/181046464563?pt=Militaria&hash=item2a2735d033
ccj Posted December 24, 2012 Author Posted December 24, 2012 von Bothmer in a 1916 Bavarian tunic. This one is without Collar taps. Von Bothmer was awarded the PlM in 1917 so he's wearing a field grey Litewka or less possible, a pre-war Litewka in a color that closely matches field gray in B&W photo. Pour le Mérite .................... 17.07.1917 (Eichenlaub: 25.07.1917)
Chris Boonzaier Posted December 24, 2012 Posted December 24, 2012 Von Bothmer was awarded the PlM in 1917 so he's wearing a field grey Litewka or less possible, a pre-war Litewka in a color that closely matches field gray in B&W photo. Pour le Mérite .................... 17.07.1917 (Eichenlaub: 25.07.1917) Hi, is it von Bothmers tunic ???
ccj Posted December 24, 2012 Author Posted December 24, 2012 I wish!!!! I've Ben researching and have narrowed it down a to few, I think. He was a GenLt, a von, but not a Ritter Von, nor a PlM or Max-Joseph winner. He was an aristocrat from the Munich area. I think it's von Hartz. I was hoping for forum help as its an exciting research project but I'm not fortunate enough to have a lot of research books like rank lists, etc...
ccj Posted December 24, 2012 Author Posted December 24, 2012 The three I have narrowed down to but not sure. Bernhard von Hartz Karl Freiherr von Nagel zu Aichberg Gustav Scanzoni von Lichtenfels GenLt von Hartz seems the best bet, I think...
Chris Boonzaier Posted December 24, 2012 Posted December 24, 2012 The three I have narrowed down to but not sure. Bernhard von Hartz Karl Freiherr von Nagel zu Aichberg Gustav Scanzoni von Lichtenfels GenLt von Hartz seems the best bet, I think... Well... is is certainly the easiest to spell!
ccj Posted December 24, 2012 Author Posted December 24, 2012 my thoughts too. Here's a similar tunic but its more of a M15 with a single breast pocket. The Bavarian has not french cuffs and the skirt pockets are straight.
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