Paul R Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 A collecting friend referred me to this beauty on Ebay a week or so ago. I came home from a work trip to find this waiting for me. It will compliment this uniform well: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/53014-soviet-coast-guard-falls-under-the-kgb/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted June 10, 2012 Author Share Posted June 10, 2012 The stamping... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathomhaus Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Does it have a year of manufacture stamp in addition to the government pattern/standard year stamp that you've shown? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 This is the only stamp that I saw on the flag. I think it is dated 1981, per the stamp above. I will look to see if I missed something. Are there normally two stamps? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathomhaus Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) As I have understood it, the "GOST" date does not show the actual year that a flag was made but the year that the pattern being used was either initially authorized or reauthorized by the contracting authorities of the Soviet government/military. The dates changed every once in a while and I do not know if there was some sort of an official update schedule that determined how often they switched. I could be wrong, but if I owned two Soviet naval ensigns and one had a single GOST date of 1981 and another had a single GOST date of, say, 1986, I always felt that it would be correct to regard the earlier flag as having been made between 1981 and no later than 1986. If I had a flag with a GOST date of 1981 that showed a second year date of 1983, then the second year, 1983, would have to be the actual year of manufacture. (My choice of dates here is arbitrary and I'm just using them as examples.) This was explained to me by a Russian friend who at one point had dozens and dozens of surplus Cold War era Soviet flags. I'm sorry that I completely forget what the GOST letters actually stood for! Regards P.S. I've never heard anyone explain why some flags have one year date and others have two. I think it varied from year to year and from factory to factory. It may have varied according to whatever the current quotas happened to be a specific factory and what a foreman had to do to successfully (and heroically?) reach his immediate quota. (I think that we've all seen at least one Soviet military hat that was strangely mis-sized at the factory; mis-stamping was obviously a quick way to meet a quota "back in the day"). Edited June 13, 2012 by Mathomhaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 Thank you for the detailed explanation. I will take a closer look when I get back home, on Thursday. Very interesting stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Allow me to help you Gents This ГОСТ means ГОСТ 8498-81 Флаги и вымпелы специальные. Общие технические условия 01.01.1982 действующий Название (англ.): Special marine flags. General technical requirements Область применения: Настоящий стандарт распространяется на флаги и вымпелы специальные, применяемые на морских, речных судах и кораблях http://gost.ruscable.ru/cgi-bin/catalog/catalog.cgi?f1=8498-81&x=48&y=10 It is fully searchable source. Regards, Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 Thank you Nick. Can you please summarize in English? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Generally it says that this ГОСТ is still active. Here we have full text http://www.gosthelp.ru/gost/gost7762.html If you'll need help with translation of any part - just ask Cheers, Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 Thank you Nick! I do appreciate it. So the ГОСТ is still making flags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) In some sense Paul You see essentially ГОСТ = State standard specification (in case of flags we are talking about material, size, etc ...) Yes, this old soviet state standard for flags is still in use in modern Russia and every firm that manufacture flags should comply with it. Cheers, Nick Edited June 14, 2012 by JapanX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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