Naxos Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 I have seen many different colonial medals some are coarse lacking in detail others display a cartoon like image of the Wilhelm II. Have a look at the beauty of an awarded original 1912 colonial medal.
Naxos Posted July 23, 2012 Author Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) I had the ribbon bar without the medal for a long time. It belonged to a Baden man who served in German-East-Africa.Finally, I was able to acquire the right medal for it. It gave me great pleasure to re-unit the bar with a medal. Edited March 6, 2013 by Naxos
Naxos Posted July 23, 2012 Author Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) Last, this medal travelled a long way. It came from Swakopmund, Namibia Edited March 6, 2013 by Naxos
Chris Boonzaier Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 Very nice indeed... I blush to say it, but my only one of these is a fake :-(
Leutwein Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 a very nice topic Here my little contribution At first the certificate for this nice medal. Gefreiter Biermann received also 1899 the MEZ2 (!) for his actions in GSWA 1898. Those certificates are rarer to find in comparison with those for the German-Southwestafria- or China- Medal, unfortunately. And a nice Photo with the colonial medal in wear.
Leutwein Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 and this nice medal bar. The owner received the colonial-medal most likely (in connection with the GSWA-Medal) for his actions in GSWA 1903/04. Best wishes Karsten
Naxos Posted July 23, 2012 Author Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) At first the certificate for this nice medal. Gefreiter Biermann received also 1899 the MEZ2 (!) for his actions in GSWA 1898. Those certificates are rarer to find in comparison with those for the German-Southwestafria- or China- Medal, unfortunately. Karsten, what a great document! Thanks for posting it. Edited July 23, 2012 by Naxos
Claudius Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 and this nice medal bar. The owner received the colonial-medal most likely (in connection with the GSWA-Medal) for his actions in GSWA 1903/04. Best wishes Karsten That is an GREAT group of document, photo and medal barrrr.....wait...did the medal bar loose it's battle bar that is shown on the photo? Strange, he served in WWI (HK w/Swords) but they didn't give him any other decorations until 1934. Not even the war help medal.
Leutwein Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 That is an GREAT group of document, photo and medal barrrr.....wait...did the medal bar loose it's battle bar that is shown on the photo? Strange, he served in WWI (HK w/Swords) but they didn't give him any other decorations until 1934. Not even the war help medal. Hello, sorry for that misunderstanding but this is not a group! Only single items... so nobody did loose his battle clasp Strange but not so strange because not every front-fighter received decorations.... But many colonial veterans weren´t front-fighters in WW1, because many of them weren´t capable for the front-service (jail-fever, malaria, blackwater-fever and so on). Another nice pic with a lovely ribbon bar. Nice to see those miniatures battle clasps for the colonial medal. Did someone recognize him?.... ...it is the famous defender of Mora Major Ernst von Raben The picture was taken 1921, three years before his death. Nice curriculum vitae of v.Rabe with another nice picture of him: http://de.wikipedia....Ernst_von_Raben (in german, unfortunately)
Leutwein Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 close up of his lovely ribbon bar Best wishes Karsten
Claudius Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 Hello, sorry for that misunderstanding but this is not a group! Only single items... so nobody did loose his battle clasp Ahhh. I re-read your post and it is my fault, I put this together as a group. Strange but not so strange because not every front-fighter received decorations.... But many colonial veterans weren´t front-fighters in WW1, because many of them weren´t capable for the front-service (jail-fever, malaria, blackwater-fever and so on). Please don't understand me. I think it is a period bar in every respect. It is "strange" as in "duly noted" that this gent, while he was considered a combatant in WWI, did not recieve any WWI decorations, not even the Verdienstkreuz für Kriegshilfe.
Bernhard H.Holst Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 close up of his lovely ribbon bar Best wishes Karsten Hello Carsten: Thank you for showing Maj.v.Raben's picture. I would like to mention that he was my and I believe many other German youth's hero during the years prior to 1945. I noticed in the bibliography in the Wiki entry the mention of a publication from 1942 which must be one of those we were able to purchase and then trade for others. The then German colonies in Africa gave plenty of subjects for writers and the propaganda machine. I have ordered a book from Germany " Der Krieg in Kamerun" which I hope to be interesting in the description of the short campaign there beyond the somewhat tainted material I recall. Bernhard H. Holst born in 1931
Naxos Posted July 23, 2012 Author Posted July 23, 2012 Nice portrait of von Raben! here is a good article of the last battle in Kamerun: Golf Dornseif: „Kameruner Endkampf um die Festung Moraberg“
Bernhard H.Holst Posted July 24, 2012 Posted July 24, 2012 Nice portrait of von Raben! here is a good article of the last battle in Kamerun: Golf Dornseif: „Kameruner Endkampf um die Festung Moraberg“ Hello Naxos: Thanks for the link. Good article and interesting site. Bernhard H. Holst
Naxos Posted July 24, 2012 Author Posted July 24, 2012 Hello Naxos: Thanks for the link. Good article and interesting site. Bernhard H. Holst You are most welcome Bernhard! There are lots of very good articles on German Schutzgebiete on this site: http://www.golf-dornseif.de/artikel/Uebersicht
Chris Dale Posted July 24, 2012 Posted July 24, 2012 Great thread and great photos too! Here's another photo of Raben, presumably pre-war (from Col J's collection)... who can identify the medals? Also does anyone have a full list of Raben's medals as worn in the later photos above? Cheers Chris
piekenier Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 Oberleutnant Ernst von Raben in the earlier last photo Prussian Red Eagle Order 4th class with swords, Prussian order of the Crown 4th class with swords,Wuerttemberg Miltary Service Order 3rd Class Knight .This is in accordance with the Ordens Almanac 1908/09 and the 1908 Prussian Rank List which is also evident on his photo (even if it is not such a clear image when enlarged!).Chris maybe you can enlarge it on your original photo for us. Looks like his sword is the colonial officers sword with crown pommel and officers portapee and 1907 darkened /anodized scabbard with two carrying rings and leather carrying straps complete. Nice colonial officers parade belt and buckle and Oberleutnant jacket with red piping for Kamerun (I think) and officers lanyard . In the earlier 1921 photo the medal ribbon I believe from left to right Iron Cross 2nd class, Prussian Red Eagle order 4the class with swords, Prussian order of the crown 4th class with swords, Prussian Military Service Cross (Dienstauszaichnungs kreuz), Wuerttemberg Miltary Service Order 3rd Class Knight? ,Kolonial Service medal with bars (Kamerun)? Mecklenburg Greifen Order 3rd class Knight ? ,then unknown
piekenier Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 The Wilhelm Schniewindt group with the Colonial Service Medal with Kamerun Bar as posted in wearers of PLM
army historian Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Great find Naxos congratulations. Very nice you were able to restore the very nice ribbon bar. Here is my best Colonial medal in my collection. Good Luck George
Chris Dale Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Thank you Piekenier for the identification, sorry I should have put a close up in- This photo is from Joe Rookery's Collection here- http://www.flickr.com/photos/joerookery/5673066110/sizes/l/in/set-72157625375396481/ Cheers Chris
Naxos Posted August 2, 2012 Author Posted August 2, 2012 Great find Naxos congratulations. Very nice you were able to restore the very nice ribbon bar. Here is my best Colonial medal in my collection. Good Luck George Thanks George! Nice one! BTW: You will have something in the mail - long time coming (hope you still have the same address) Hardy
army historian Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Yes Hardy - I've live here for 30 years and do not plan to move. Thanks, I will watch for the book. George
Leutwein Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 I will post the backside for those who were happy to see a picture of v.Raben... ....with the original autogramm of v.Raben Would be nice to see some more items in this awesome thread. Best wishes Karsten
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