fukuoka Posted January 7, 2013 Author Posted January 7, 2013 OMG, Nick, I didn't notice how wonderful and rare that document is! (Wine blurs the senses...) Yes, WHY is it a Japanese award document with a Russian award noted??? Since this was very early, perhaps the Japanese government had not instituted the permission documents.
fukuoka Posted January 7, 2013 Author Posted January 7, 2013 (edited) Got too excited when posting the Collar pictures. Here are some other good pics. Edited January 7, 2013 by fukuoka
fukuoka Posted January 7, 2013 Author Posted January 7, 2013 (edited) Awarded to Okuma on November 2, 1877. More another day. Edited January 7, 2013 by fukuoka
JapanX Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 (edited) Since this was very early, perhaps the Japanese government had not instituted the permission documents. Yes, I think you are right. In 1882 Japanese awarding system was only 7 years old with only three orders (Rising Sun, Rising Sun with Pawlonia Leaves and Chrysanthemum) and three medals (Taiwan, Constitution and "Cannon") ... In case of this Anna document they used standard engraving for early rising sun docs. The only thing that was left to do - to change the order decal Unbelievable doc... Edited January 7, 2013 by JapanX
Claudius Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 Forgot the award document. Interesting that 'Anne' is written in kanji This is really odd, as in fact-is-stranger-than-fiction sort of way. A Russian Order on a Japanese Award Document. If I didn't see it here, I would think it was a Frankenstein mash-up joke. Thank you for showing this.
pieter1012 Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 The Japanese document is indeed an early permission to wear document. The text also says so and the issue number (138) refers to the registration of foreign awards. I think the Japanese initially copied this system from the french. Their earlier permission to wear documents issued by the Grand Chancellor of the Legion d'Honneur also has a colored picture of the foreign award concerned. Because of the high costs of making such documents, the Japanese probably later switched to the permission to wear documents without any picture. These pictured permission to wear documents are very rare, I have only seen one other one before (for the Grandcross Crown of Italy to marquis Tokudaiji) in the collection of a Japanese fellow collector. Unfortunately, he didn't want to sell or trade. Richard, thank you for showing this nice document to us. Pieter
JapanX Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 (edited) In case of this Anna document they used standard engraving for early rising sun docs. On second thought for this permission doc they used engraving design of the 1874 War Medal document! See for yourself http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/55001-1874-war-medal-close-look/page-2 I think since is was simply a permission doc they decided to use the design of the first (and the only one at the time of introduction of this practice) medal and not the order. Edited January 7, 2013 by JapanX
Gensui Posted January 8, 2013 Posted January 8, 2013 Kato received his Paulownia on July 14th 1916, after he resigned as foreign minister (I have his order and Pauwlonia document in my collection) Pieter, Due to my PhD, I got often in touch with Kato. Would you mind to share your treasures/his decorations and documents? Thanks in advance and br, Chris
Laurence Strong Posted January 8, 2013 Posted January 8, 2013 Wow, this gets better by the day. Many thanks for these awesome items Larry
JapanX Posted January 8, 2013 Posted January 8, 2013 Another russian order of his is Order of the White Eagle. Naturally version for non-Christians. For more info (including original doc issued for Japanese and another set) go here http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/54861-pro-fide-lege-et-rege-imperial-russia-order-of-the-white-eagle/
pieter1012 Posted January 8, 2013 Posted January 8, 2013 Chris, I am a digillitarate and don't know how to put pictures on GMIC. But if you go to the site of Richard (imperialjapanmedalsandbadges) under Grandcordon a picture is shown of Kato's order of the Chrysanthemum document, which he received posthumously on 28 January 1926. The Grandcordon shown by Richard is not Kato's, but his looks exactly the same. Hope this is of some use to you, Pieter
fukuoka Posted January 8, 2013 Author Posted January 8, 2013 Thanks for all the comments and views. More medals coming. Another Russian Order with permission document (regular style, sorry)
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