dante Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Here are mine, be interested to see others and perhaps more complete, what was the criteria for these things and was there certificates, cheers, Paul
Chris Boonzaier Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 I dont have any of the badges.... but these may be of interest....
Marcin L Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Great awards, Dante. Do you know what is the meaning of the date on each award? Is that the year of the contest or a Jahreclasse? Regards, Marcin
LeoLinz Posted September 19, 2013 Posted September 19, 2013 Dear Marcin, the "Kaiserabzeichen" was instituted in 1895 (there was also a "Königsabzeichen" in Bavaria, Saxony and Wuerttemberg with the same regulations). The idea was to improve the marksmanship of the regiments of Infantry, Jäger, Artillery, MG-Units (since 1903) and the Navy (participated in squadrons). The best Company (Squadron etc.) got the badge and all NCOs and regular soldiers of this Company of the Regiment were allowed to wear it on the right arm for one year. Since 1902 the year was stamped on the badge. If no new badge was won in th following year competition the old badge had to be removed from the Uniform. But as far as I know everyone was allowed to keep the badge as long he didn't wear it on his uniform. I hope these infos are of interest for you. Reagrds, Leo
dante Posted September 19, 2013 Author Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) Chris nice pictures, Marcin no but I intend to find out....Leo great bit of information many thanks Edited September 19, 2013 by dante
LeoLinz Posted September 19, 2013 Posted September 19, 2013 I found this page (unfortunately it's from Russia an I can't read Cyrillic). But you can see nice pictures of the different styles of badges and what happened to the dates if the award was wone more than one time. You can also see the silver shield which got the chief of the winning company (not for wear) and the bust of the Emperor (with the winning year engraved) which the Company got additionally. All combinations of Dates are possible, the actual date was the biggest one and the others were first added separately under the badge and later added on the sides in small scrolls. As I read, the "highest" badge had 7 different dates on it, which means this company won the "Preisschießen" seven years. The "highest" badges normally come on the market have four dates on it (they're around € 350,--). I never saw one with five or six dates . http://antique-photos.com/ru/awardsdatabase/german-empire/prussia/135-kaiserabzeichen.html Regards and all the best, Leo
KIR Posted September 20, 2013 Posted September 20, 2013 ... and was there certificates, cheers, Paul Hi Paul, in the last years, I saw only two bavarian (framed) certificates for the Königsabzeichen (1. Komp., bay. 21. Inf.-Rgt. 1911 & 4. Komp., bay. 13. Inf.-Rgt. 1912). I've never seen a prussain certificate for the Kaiserabzeichen. A complete winner-list you will find here: Kaiserpreis (Schiesswettbewerb von 1895 bis 1913) – GenWiki Best regards, Jens
dante Posted September 20, 2013 Author Posted September 20, 2013 Jens that is fantastic, many thanks.
taube Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 Interesting thread! I have owned this one for a while and was never able to find a reference. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance, taube.
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