utopis Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Beautiful pillars of state 1 cl on ebay right now. As we remember with the golden kite a "only shipping to us"-policy might cause another bargain. We'll see...
paul wood Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 The way round shipping to US only for me is to use a friend's address in the US, pay him to send it to me and when I meet him once a year ply him liberally with Jack Daniels.Paul
utopis Posted October 10, 2013 Author Posted October 10, 2013 I thought of that too and asked the seller but he only ships to the ebay address which must be in the US. So for me that's checkmate.
Stuka f Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 You can change your ebay adress and I am sure you must be able to find some one willing to use his ebay account to buy it for you.... |<ris
JapanX Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Before bidding on this one someone should explain (at least to himself) the eccentric look of badge on the breast star. Last time I checked - this badge should be gold-plated.
JapanX Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Interesting, that separately this breast star = 2nd class and badge = 3rd class (especially since there is no ribbon in sight). I wonder if seller realize that :whistle:
utopis Posted October 10, 2013 Author Posted October 10, 2013 Actually, I wondered that, too. But beyond that I can't see anything alarming.
JapanX Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Yep, except for strange silvering on the breast star badge both pieces look ok. I bet that badge is maked with M
JapanX Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 One day to go and breast star $1655 < neck/sash badge $1840 Interesting inequality
utopis Posted October 15, 2013 Author Posted October 15, 2013 Interesting, that separately this breast star = 2nd class and badge = 3rd class (especially since there is no ribbon in sight). I wonder if seller realize that Doesn't the large suspension ring indicate a grand cross?
JapanX Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 Yep. If I remember correctly 1st class badge has suspension ring with diameter (approximately of course) 16,5-17 mm and 3rd class badge has ring with diameter 10-10,5 mm. P.S. Sometimes I see 1st class sets with badges that have double ring construction of 3rd class. These are most likely artificially created sets
utopis Posted October 15, 2013 Author Posted October 15, 2013 P.S. Sometimes I see 1st class sets with badges that have double ring construction of 3rd class. These are most likely artificially created sets I think that goes without saying.
JapanX Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) Not enough 1st classes for all ... Edited October 15, 2013 by JapanX
utopis Posted October 16, 2013 Author Posted October 16, 2013 Well, I guess I was wrong. I didn't expect it to go so high. Sash badge: $5655 Breast star: $4400 $10.055 for a set without sash, box and with wrongly plated breast star....
Taganrog Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 It is the Badge of the 1st class! Diameter of a ring at the 3rd class of 9 mm At the Sun, Clouds, Treasure, the Gold Kite diameter of a ring at the 4th, the 5th, the 6th and below classes of 15,5-16 mm The 1st classes diameter of a ring have 18 mm (+) On a photo with a ruler 11 divisions from 16 are visible It is a little more than 11. It turns out 18 mm I congratulate the winner!
JapanX Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 Well, I guess I was wrong. I didn't expect it to go so high. Seriously?! I'd say pretty sweet price But then again - not a first class set anymore, since it looks like badge and star were bought bybtwo different buyers ...
utopis Posted October 16, 2013 Author Posted October 16, 2013 I remember one complete first class with sash going on an auction recently for ~6000 €. + Here we have that only USA bidders thing going on. Yep, to different buyers but that shouldn't be a surprise.
utopis Posted October 16, 2013 Author Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) While on topic, do you have an idea what happened to the red enamel on this one? Looks like an unfinished piece. Edited October 16, 2013 by utopis
JapanX Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) Looks like this breast star lost its original red enamel (at least in several places) and somebody decided to cover it with a lay of red lacquer (?) or was it cold enamel (?). Anyway, looks pretty terrible ... Edited October 16, 2013 by JapanX
JapanX Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 complete first class with sash going on an auction recently for ~6000 €. I'd say damn good price!
Richard LaTondre Posted October 17, 2013 Posted October 17, 2013 Before bidding on this one someone should explain (at least to himself) the eccentric look of badge on the breast star.Last time I checked - this badge should be gold-plated. Well, I guess I was wrong. I didn't expect it to go so high.Sash badge: $5655Breast star: $4400$10.055 for a set without sash, box and with wrongly plated breast star....Good evening gentlemen and best wishes to all.I do not believe that the breast star was wrongly plated. There is a grouping of eight major stars on the circumference of the medal. Each of the groups consist of six fluted rays of which the diagonal sets of rays are gilded and the others are silver.(Reference Peterson page 147 paragraph 6. This can also be seen on close inspection of the furnished photos
utopis Posted October 17, 2013 Author Posted October 17, 2013 Yes, the rays of the star base are correct silver and gilt but not the badge on the star. Peterson, same paragraph "the breast star is 81 mm in diameter, convex and has the gold-plated enameled badge set with pearls"
Taganrog Posted October 17, 2013 Posted October 17, 2013 I remember one complete first class with sash going on an auction recently for ~6000 €. + Here we have that only USA bidders thing going on. Yep, to different buyers but that shouldn't be a surprise. You meant it? http://www.benemerenti.de/php/us_vorschau.php?lnr=20&wnr=MAN If "yes", result of the auction № 0906 9.000,00 € + 23% = 11010 Euro
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