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    Manchukuo National Foundation Commemorative Medal


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    Posted (edited)

    So it looks like a nice one of these is for sale on Ebay...Nice medal and case but the wrong ribbon. Starting at $2000..One sold a few years for a bit more than that iirc but that had the correct ribbon.

    JC

    ps. If you happen to have a spare ribbon for one of these please give me a shout. I've been looking for one for years..

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultra-RARE-MANCHUKUO-National-Foundation-IMPERIAL-Medal-1933-JAPAN-/221360363985?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item338a1b19d1#ht_311wt_1263

    Edited by fjcp
    Posted

    Thanks for the link... So $3000 was the selling price back then.... Nick are these "reasonable" prices?

    Posted

    Thanks for the link... So $3000 was the selling price back then....

    Well, not that long ago I saw how such medal (without ribbon and case) was sold for less than $500 :whistle:

    Posted

    Obviously this medal has replacement ribbon from official National Foundation Medal.

    Original ribbon looks like this one (medal that was mentioned by our colleague JC earlier)

    Posted

    and something that can only be compared to something recently evacuated from a dog's bowels.

    JC

    Posted

    and something that can only be compared to something recently evacuated from a dog's bowels.

    This one was made specifically for us by fakers from People's Republic of China ;)

    Posted

    from my collection (ribbon bar bought separately). Note number inside case is 261 - compare with current offer on web:

    Posted

    Thanks for posting that gorgeous example David. The first bid is in btw. Nice upgrade for sure but somehow not tempted.

    JC

    Posted (edited)

    One thing that stands out with these medals is the thickness. They are considerably thicker than any of the other Manchukuo or Japanese medals I've seen/have. Also PuYi's nose sticks out quite a bit...Poor guy.

    Anybody have a picture of this medal being worn?

    Thanks

    JC

    PS. Sorry about the terrible picture.

    Edited by fjcp
    Posted

    Also PuYi's nose sticks out quite a bit...Poor guy.

    What do you expect from nongovernmental medal? :whistle:

    Anybody have a picture of this medal being worn?

    Personally - never ;)

    Cheers,

    Nick

    Posted (edited)

    Good point Nick. What was I thinking :) and shame about there being no pictures.

    Obviously this one is rare but can we speculate on numbers issued?

    If the numbers in the cases are even a slight indicator of rarity, we may be talking very few indeed.

    Was Peterson correct in stating that this was a personal award from the Emperor? Are there any conclusions we can draw from the ribbon bar that David was kind enough to post? Nothing too spectacular on that bar other than this medal. So nobody too high ranking per se.

    JC

    Same picture again just slightly less zoomed in.

    Edited by fjcp
    Posted

    Was Peterson correct in stating that this was a personal award from the Emperor?

    If it is indeed personal award from the Last One, then I have a feeling that he was way too personal with way too many.

    I know about at least 10 different original medals ;)

    Are there any conclusions we can draw from the ribbon bar that David was kind enough to post? Nothing too spectacular on that bar other than this medal. So nobody too high ranking per se.

    Definitely not Marshal or Prince :whistle:

    Posted

    Thanks for these posts most useful, I have been approached by an individual who has such a piece (cased) alas his idea of price is more fantastic than the prospect of time travel in the next five years.

    Paul

    Posted

    ... his idea of price is more fantastic than the prospect of time travel in the next five years.

    No wonder!

    Personal involvement of Emperor - you can't put a price tag on that! At least "they" say so ... :whistle:

    Posted

    Cant imagine who that might be! :)

    So it looks like $2000 is where it stayed. I guess the buyer is going to be on the hunt for a ribbon. Only been a 5 year search for me with no luck.

    Jc

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