dedehansen Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Hello Gents, as I got the group from Vizefeldwebel, there was an Ausweis with it. The Ausweis is for the Alte - Kameraden - Nadel, Whatever it is I don´t know, but it seems to be interesting. Regards Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Hi, Interesting... it seems to be for members of any FK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedehansen Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 Hi, Interesting... it seems to be for members of any FK? Hj Chris, sorry I forgot to mention that it is from Westfälisches Freikorps Pfeffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolewts58 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 The stickpin was a silver Westphalian horse on an enameled black shield as shown in the upper corner of the ausweis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) Here´s a photo of a member of Pfeffer Edited February 4, 2014 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedehansen Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Thanks to bolewts58 for Your explanation from the stickpin, I´ve never seen one. Thanks to The Prussian very nice photo he is also wearing the grüne Fangschnur mit dem westfälischen Pferd Regards Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolewts58 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Here is the Fangschnur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedehansen Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Hello bolewts58, thanks for the Fangschnurphoto. I need such a Fangschnur, Is it hard to find ? Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolewts58 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 The first one I've ever owned in 40 years of collecting. So, I think they're pretty hard to come by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destruction Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Here is the Fangschnur. Very nice, Brian, I'm glad this one went to a good hands Here is mine, the highest (3rd) grade with black cord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedehansen Posted February 6, 2014 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 Thanks Destruction, I didn´t even know that different classes exist. Now I´ve to check the Militärpaß. Regards Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolewts58 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Serge Isn't yours with gold cord? Anyway, very nice. I feel these are grossly undervalued in Nimmergut's reference. They really don't turn up very often at all. But, I guess i shouldn't complain since I picked it up for less than even the current low catalogue price. Edited February 6, 2014 by bolewts58 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destruction Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Thanks Destruction, I didn´t even know that different classes exist. Now I´ve to check the Militärpaß. Regards Andreas Andreas, It was pretty complicated. Fangschnur of VII. Armee-Korps (FK Duesseldorf, Lichtschlag etc) had only 2 classes, usual green and green with additional silver cord (for 3 and 9 months). Pfeffer went further. He used two classes, but also added one more, with black cord, making it in 3 grades (for FK Pfeffer only). Best! Serg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destruction Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Serge Isn't yours with gold cord? Anyway, very nice. I feel these are grossly undervalued in Nimmergut's reference. They really don't turn up very often at all. But, I guess i shouldn't complain since I picked it up for less than even the current low catalogue price. Did you mean silver cord? This one for sure is black, we compared it to silver one closely. Yep, the price was good, congrats! I had a huge desire to buy it myself, to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolewts58 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I meant to say silver. I thought there was only plain green and one with silver cord. Are you sure yours isn't just tarnished silver? By the way, I got mine after the auction at a 10% discount, so am quite happy with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destruction Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Brian, The one with black cord is described by Klietmann. Since it was done based on his writings to Pfeffer himself, I hope we can trust him in this very case. I was thinkin about silver grade as well first, but we did compare it to a silver one, and no--it's black. Does not look like oxidation. Best! Serg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolewts58 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Serg Thanks for the info. I actually thought there were only 2 types, as listed in Nimmergut. But, after your post I went through some old notes I had from Verkuilen Ager and noticed the mention of the one with black cord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destruction Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 FYI...a silver one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destruction Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 And mine (black). Sorry for offtop, btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolewts58 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Serg Thanks for showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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