utopis Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 post #18! There's nothing I love more than stylized enamel ribbons!
JapanX Posted August 10, 2014 Author Posted August 10, 2014 No wonder! By the way, this one was sold four years ago for 23,000 euros
saschaw Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 Well, sometimes I wonder why I'm still collecting full size decorations at all... :love: Small hint, in #4, you've taken the wrong pictures, this is again the chain from #1, #2 and #3. I was at the floor auction and would have loved to get it, but left it for someone else... being there, I raised an issue, which I'd like to repeat here: The wearer, Carl von Weinberg, was Jewish, but his Saint Stanislas order is a standard type. Did Jews in general or at least Non-Russian Jews receive standard decorations instead of non-christian types, and were the latter for Muslims and awards to Far East only? Or did the firm making the miniature chain just not pay attention? After all, this miniatures is not what he was awarded, but what he bought in Germany...
JapanX Posted August 10, 2014 Author Posted August 10, 2014 Small hint, in #4, you've taken the wrong pictures, this is again the chain from #1, #2 and #3. Ooops. My bad. I'll correct it as soon as I will be in home. Thanks :beer:
JapanX Posted August 10, 2014 Author Posted August 10, 2014 Did Jews in general or at least Non-Russian Jews receive standard decorations Yes, they received standard ones
saschaw Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 Yes, they received standard ones Thanks! But just to be accurate: Jews in general or only non-Russian Jews? I can imagine it would have been totally impossible to check this when awarding to a foreigner... but to citizens? You probably know, but though I want to add: Prussian had non-Christian decorations, too, but only from 1851 to 1861, when they were probably abolished. Those were awarded to Muslims in Ottoman Empire and Persia, but also to Prussian Jews! The latter didn't want such a "special treatment", and after some discussion, new king Wilhelm I. had an understanding... I'm not aware of any muslim, then getting standard crosses too, raised a complaint on this... Check here for more information: http://www.medalnet.net/Non_Christian_Red_Eagle.htm Oh, and sorry for getting that much off-topic... what was this here about... ?
larsb001 Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) For some reason I have allways liked this particular decoration, both the Imperial and the Provisorial version: Regards, Lars Edited August 10, 2014 by larsb001
JapanX Posted August 10, 2014 Author Posted August 10, 2014 I knew you have something special in your treasury Lars
JapanX Posted August 10, 2014 Author Posted August 10, 2014 Thanks! But just to be accurate: Jews in general or only non-Russian Jews? As far as I know in general You probably know, but though I want to add: Prussian had non-Christian decorations, too, but only from 1851 to 1861, when they were probably abolished. Those were awarded to Muslims in Ottoman Empire and Persia, but also to Prussian Jews! The latter didn't want such a "special treatment", and after some discussion, new king Wilhelm I. had an understanding... I'm not aware of any muslim, then getting standard crosses too, raised a complaint on this... Check here for more information: http://www.medalnet.net/Non_Christian_Red_Eagle.htm These birdies are darn rare
larsb001 Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 You could also enjoy this pretty old Bravery Sword, try to take a close look at the George Or this ......
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