Paul R Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Astonishing find! It is a shame that the medals were not mounted. Kinda shocked to see that actually. Definitely a once in a lifetime find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 We know that the dexter coat of the two shields accollé in post #34 (and below) is that of the Naryshkin family but do we know anything about the coat (or coats, actually) on the sinister side of this marshalling, please? This is Somov family coat From official armorial of Russian Impire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_08_2014/post-6141-0-15813600-1408106736.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_08_2014/post-6141-0-47897800-1408106738.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper_D Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) This is Somov family coat From official armorial of Russian Impire An impeccable and irrefutable source! - thanks. I am not quite sure why the Somov coat - which btw looks vaguely Polish, to me - is on the dexter side when it comes from the husband. I guess the answer is that his wife significantly outranks him. Anyway, apologies for going off topic. Edited August 15, 2014 by Trooper_D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 Interestingly their forefather (back in 1389) was murza from the Golden Horde Their family house in St.Petersburg still has coat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogi Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Wow the orders are arranged like candy hehehe Excellent post Nick :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 Madame est servie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper_D Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Interestingly their forefather (back in 1389) was murza from the Golden Horde So, perhaps, totemic and/or Islamic in origin. Very interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I saw just couple of photos of this unbelievable find on some Russian forum before, but most of the photos you were so kind to share with us I see for the first time. Many many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Danilo (russian work by the way ) о5.jpg о6.jpg Very unusual look, early variant or something else? Do you happen to know the producer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogi Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 AK maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 So, perhaps, totemic and/or Islamic in origin. They certainly remembered their roots We can see crescend in some other russian coats of arms. Full list can be found here http://www.symbolarium.ru/index.php/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%8F%D1%86_(%D0%B3%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%B4.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 Do you happen to know the producer? Hallmarks of the St. Petersburg District Assay Administration (1908-1917) 84 + not readable personal mark (perhaps БШ or ВШ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 Very unusual look, early variant or something else? It certainly is 100% russian Danilo. Better quality pictures Obverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 Reverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 By the way, during this time period there was another (unknown) russian manufacturer of this order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 Medallions Judging by its hallmarks this piece was made somewhere between 1899 and 1903. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogi Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I love that orange enamel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) Yep. Pretty eccentric Edited August 15, 2014 by JapanX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Many thanks for new information and photos! In this topic http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/6396-montenegro-bravery-award/?p=241117 2nd class set is presented for which it is said that it is made by Russian producer Igor Ozeretski. I tried to find some info on that producer but had no luck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 Check this thread again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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