Fake Socialist Yugoslavia Fakes!

paja · January 13, 2015

This one's from the collection of National Museum in Å abac.

paja · January 13, 2015

Belonged to fighter B. RapaiÄ‡, made on March 30, 1945. Today in Tihomir TomaÅ¡ek's collection.

paja · January 18, 2015

Lately I've noticed Brotherhood&Unity first classes with strange central medallion. Take a good look at the torches!

Now are these really fake or not I can not say but I personally think that something's wrong with them.

What do you gentlemen think?

On the first look you might miss it.

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Edited January 18, 2015 by paja

paja · January 18, 2015

But on the other photos from the ad we can take a better look at those torches.

http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2015/post-7937-0-24032000-1421593363.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2015/post-7937-0-52839300-1421593365.jpg

Edited January 18, 2015 by paja

paja · January 18, 2015

One more detail which I find unusual is that all of the orders with the same look are not hallmarked.

When it comes to orders with lower numbers (under 1k) that's OK, but I thought that orders with higher numbers should all be hallmarked...

By the way what's the biggest number you've seen? So far almost all that I've seen (not counting conversion types) were in 2K range. Some of these that I speak of are over 3K.

paja · January 18, 2015

This one's even worse.

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Edited January 18, 2015 by paja

paja · January 18, 2015

One more with lower number.

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paja · January 18, 2015

This one has very low number.

http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2015/post-7937-0-30063800-1421596386.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2015/post-7937-0-20225800-1421596390.jpg

paja · January 18, 2015

I don't think I am becoming paranoid, those torches are really crude and ugly and the same goes for the surface surrounding the flames.

Edited January 18, 2015 by paja

andrejm75 · January 19, 2015

I think you are correct, the surface behind the torches is very crude...I have seen second and third class orders with better finish. I assume these are from a well known seller on eBay

paja · January 19, 2015

I agree, and yes, those are coming from a well known seller on ebay. Order with number 2548 is being offered as we speak.

paja · January 21, 2015

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Communist-medal-Russian-order-CCCP-or-ex-Yugoslavian-gold-color-/281513424753?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item418b81f771&nma=true&si=f%252B2xJ59kYAe6k8%252B6D0HL9ZTHVBE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

paja · January 21, 2015

More fake submarine badges. Golden ones are definitely fake, I am not sure about the silver one, some details are suspicious but the overall quality of that one is obviously better.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Four-Different-Yugoslavia-Submarine-Badges-/391028877701?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5b0b232985

http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2015/post-7937-0-85471300-1421861996.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2015/post-7937-0-21022500-1421862016.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2015/post-7937-0-21798000-1421862028.jpg

Edited January 21, 2015 by paja

paja · January 21, 2015

More: http://www.ebay.com/itm/YUGOSLAV-SUBMARINE-CREW-GILT-BADGE-/361147621241?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5416135f79

http://www.ebay.com/itm/YUGOSLAV-SUBMARINE-CREW-SILVER-BADGE-/171576460773?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27f2c105e5

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paja · January 21, 2015

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SLOVENIAN-AIR-FORCE-SOCIETY-PLAQUETTE-OF-YUGOSLAVIA-/171542541883?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27f0bb763b

paja · January 21, 2015

Here's one more like the one utopis presented in post #53 http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/64090-socialist-yugoslavia-fakes/?p=606270

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Jugoslawien-Partisanen-Stern-1-stuffe-IKOM-Yugoslavia-TYP2-/161566623802?pt=Militaria&hash=item259e1f083a

http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2015/post-7937-0-67843800-1421878346.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2015/post-7937-0-33855900-1421878355.jpg

andrejm75 · January 26, 2015

Those submarine badges are truly awful...but, people pay good money for them :banger:

Emanuel · February 14, 2015

When all these people find out that almost all those pieces that Emonlab sells ,can be only for a key chain, unfortunatelly it will be very very late for them.....

The bad thing is that they overlook original pieces from the other sellers for a few bucks less, up to them I will say and bad for them not being a member here for correct evaluation....

vladan · February 17, 2015

I would like to thank Paja and Emanuel for their diligent work and willingness to speak the truth. Man what an eye opener.... I have been collecting rare BMX bicycles for over 30 years dealt with hundreds if not thousands of people, but have never seen before someone selling "KEY CHAINS" as the real thing. Keep up the good work guys I'm sure that I'm not the only one counting on you.

paja · February 17, 2015

Thank you for kind words and encouragement. I am very pleased to hear you think that way and I can promise on my behalf that I will do my best to point out fakes I notice in the future.

I would also like to thank everyone else who posted helpful information on GMIC and spoke about fakes publicly. When it comes to royal, Äetnik and WW2 related militaria my biggest thanks goes to Lightfoot and Emanuel.

Edited February 17, 2015 by paja

paja · February 19, 2015

One more 1st type from recent auction.

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Edited February 19, 2015 by paja