Luftwaffe Glider badge

[François SAEZ]

One of the most rare of the Luftwaffe badges, the glider pilot badge was instituted on December 16, 1940. It was awarded to pilots who successfully completed the glider training course.

Glider pilot badge, manufactured by the firm JUNCKER, without mark, in tombak.

Edited May 6, 2005 by Fran?ois SAEZ

[Stogieman]

despite the small image, looks like a classic Juncker in Tombak. One of my favorite Luftwaffe Badges of all time.

[Mike K]

Hi,

Where are all the others?

Another Juncker - worn but not repaired.

Regards

Mike K

Obverse....

[Mike K]

I have never noticed any tombak coming through the worn areas on it though, so I'm not 100% sure whether it is very heavily nickel-silver plated or solid nickel-silver (neusilber).

Reverse....

[Jacques]

this rare badge worn by a ritterkreuztr?ger . wilhelm FULDA, later Fallsch.J?g.Rgt.2, RK 14 jun 41.

[Stogieman]

Awesom Picture Fran?ois. Love the "Winter" hat!

[Stogieman]

Once upon a time..........

[Stogieman]

Reverse!

[Stogieman]

Did I mention it was cased?

[Mike K]

Hi,

Interesting how the eagles in Post#3 and Post#7 are so very different when you look at the details. Atypical Juncker hinge (imo) in Post#8 as well. Food for thought.

Regards

Mike K

[Bob Hunter]

There is really something special about a real one!

Edited June 9, 2005 by Bob Hunter

[Guest Tim Calvert]

Jacques,

Very nice shot. I'll bet there are not many Glider pilots that won the RK!

Mikey K,

;-) Very well stated. Let's just say ... I wouldn't touch a nickle / tombak Juncker Glider unless it matched these die characteristics... speaking of which, I don't think I've ever seen one showing signs of brass (tombak). And to take it a step further, I wouldn't want a zinc one that didn't come from this die either!!!

Cheers,

Tim

Edited June 12, 2005 by Tim Calvert

[Guest Tim Calvert]

Different angle....

[J Temple-West]

Very nice badges, all...

If only I could find one. jumping

[Mike K]

Very nice badges, all...

Hi John,

Based on the images in this thread and your comment above, I can only assume that you believe that Juncker had two dies for their Glider Badge eagles?

Regards

Mike K

PS: I'd have PM'd but I don't seem to have that ability on this forum.

[J Temple-West]

Hi Mike,

Having seen examples of both types ( #7 & 12) in both early metals and later zinc, I?ve always assumed that both types were acceptable. I base this on the ?Juncker? tendency to use multiple dies in the production of all other badges.

Putting aside, for a moment, the examples that both you and TC have posted, which must be considered as being the earlier of the two, what is your opinion of the other type (gut feelings allowed)? We have one example that comes from a group (of course, never a 100% guarantee of originality), the other (Rick?s), which looks like Francois', (hard to tell from the Picture) has a nice crisp wreath, good reverse set-up and what looks to be, the correct maker mark ( again, hard to see).

I can understand wanting to acquire the #12 type, as it?s the most desirable, but if there are doubts about the other type? I, for one, would love to know.

An interesting point ? The exact same badge that Rick has posted appears in the latest D.N price guide.

As you say? a sumptuous feast for thought. :food-smiley-004:

PS: Regarding the PM problem... I'll send you a PM as a test, it may well clear the gremlins. If not, I'll get Nick on to it.

[J Temple-West]

Having asked a few questions and raised a few points, regarding the differences between the badges in this thread, I feel it would be conducive to the discussion to supply a link to a previous discussion on the subject.. so here it is.

I have to say.... it makes interesting reading and has certainly broadened my understanding of this rare badge.

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/sho...=juncker+glider

Thanks to Mike for pointing me in the right direction. wub.gif

[Stogieman]

Hi John, the link doesn't work??

[J Temple-West]

Hi Rick,

De ole Gremlins at work...I'll see if I can find the thread and re-post.

[Larry Lipps]

I don't know how those Junckers ever managed to fly with those skinny drumsticks.

[Larry Lipps]

BSW reverse. Note the very common cracked wreath.

[Stogieman]

I had a drop-dead gorgeous BSW Glider but I cannot seem to find the pix. Larry is quite right that the BSW wreaths are often cracked at the rivets like this. perhaps the press was a little to powerful when finishing the rivets. It seems to be primarily BSW ones that exhibit this little clue....