Hannover Bar 1866

[Steve K.]

Can anyone help me identify the last two ribbons on this Hannoverian Bar?

As I see it they are:

1. Hannover Royal Guelphic Order

2. Hannover Order of Ernst August

3. Langensalza Battle 1866

4. ?

5. ? (Oldenburg?)

Thanks,

Steve

Photos courtesy of Detlev Niemann

Edited April 7, 2006 by Steve K.

[Guest Rick Research]

If it was Hannoverian-- and it might not be-- next to the last COULD be the 1898 medal for ex-Queen Marie of Hannover's 81st birthday.

The problem with single color ribbons is that they could be many things.

Even the first two could be a variety of decorations depending on shifting Hanoverian regulations over time.

[Stogieman]

Also might be a Reuss statute ribbon

[HeikoGrusdat]

maybe my eyes are not the best today.... but aren`t there blue stripes on both sides of the purple ribbon second from last????

[HeikoGrusdat]

and to complete my thoughts... then it would be a Hannover long service award for officers from the time period 1837-1866.

for the german collectors and of course the friends worldwide with german literature... these would be the OEK numbers 750 - 759 (Orden und Ehrenzeichen catalogue)

and then it would match to be a early Hannover bar - great!!!

Heiko

[Steve K.]

Heiko

You are correct. There are 2 blue stripes along the side on #4 ribbon.

I was hopeful this would be a long service award.

My reference library does not contain the OEK yet! It appears I need one!!

Any thoughts on the last ribbon??

[Wild Card]

Gentlemen,

A very nice bar indeed!

Heiko has got it right. #4 is a Hannoverian long service cross; most likely a 25 year cross, but possibly a (very rare) 50 year cross.

Best wishes,

Wild Card

[Guest Rick Research]

Indeed. I hang my head in shame-- looked at the front and did not spot it against the Oldenburg. Shows better on the back.

Slapping myself as I type.

[Wild Card]

Either or.

[joe campbell]

i'm not sure that the OEK has ribbon references in it.

the full tilt nimmergut has the full line in each of the

volumes, and has been helpful for that alone on many

occasions.

is there a ribbons only reference out there?

thanks,

joe

Edited April 8, 2006 by joe campbell

[Wild Card]

Hi Joe,

Yes there is. The ?B?nderkatalog Orden & Ehrenzeichen - Deutschland 1800 - 1945? by Rolf Dieter Krischer and J?rg Nimmergut is such a reference. It is keyed to and about the same size as the OEK. My issue was printed in 1991. They are around - check with Tim Eriksen, he may have one for sale.

I hope that this helps.

Wild Card

Edited April 7, 2006 by Wild Card

[joe campbell]

many thanks! i'll check it out.

joe

[Guest Rick Research]

I find it invaluable and use it all the time

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except of course when I'm not paying attention enough

[Tom Y]

I find it invaluable and use it all the time

except of course when I'm not paying attention enough

Same here. Mine's currently held together with a rubber band

[notned]

Where can one buy this book?

[Tom Y]

Where can one buy this book?

I got mine from Sigmund Stephan several years ago. You could try Nimmergut's site, too. Or maybe AbeBooks.

[Stogieman]

Heiko is right, missed the side stripes myself.......

Good luck finding a Bander-Katolog

[Gerd Becker]

Good luck finding a Bander-Katolog

Yes, indeed. I am looking since 2 years for a copy

[Paul C]

Hello All, I have also been looking for a copy of B?nderkatalog Orden & Ehrenzeichen - Deutschland 1800 - 1945. It is a very hard book to find. I will make an offer here which is when I get my new hogh speed scanner in a month or two if some has a copy of this book that is falling apart I am more then happy to make a Adobe PDF copy of the book and give it free to anyone. Maybe we can make if a free download from the forum or if we run into any copyright issues we can just pass it around forum members. Again, I need the book to scan.

[Ed_Haynes]

Hello All, I have also been looking for a copy of B?nderkatalog Orden & Ehrenzeichen - Deutschland 1800 - 1945. It is a very hard book to find. I will make an offer here which is when I get my new hogh speed scanner in a month or two if some has a copy of this book that is falling apart I am more then happy to make a Adobe PDF copy of the book and give it free to anyone. Maybe we can make if a free download from the forum or if we run into any copyright issues we can just pass it around forum members. Again, I need the book to scan.

The copyright issues raised here are gargantuan.

[Tom Y]

Found one here Someone grab it quick

Edited April 8, 2006 by Tom Y