Chris Boonzaier Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 Damn.... When I buy a re searchable item I never start the research until I have the item in my hand... otherwise my superstition says it will get lost in the post.... Last week I just confirmed a few points on ancestry before buying an item, but did not download anything to avoid jinxing it. Now I have the item, and my ancestry access no longer works!!!! :-) If anyone has access, can you please tell me when Franz Schuegraf was wounded? I think it was sometime in November 1917.... Thanks Chris
Chris Boonzaier Posted October 26, 2017 Author Posted October 26, 2017 Muchos Grazias Amigo! His is the ring on the top.
spolei Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Hello, there are several listings of him. He was woundet 11. Aug. 1917. Schrapnellsteckschuß Oberschenkel. One list says left leg, the other list says right leg. He was awarded with the Edelweiss, but no comment about the ring. regards Andreas
Chris Boonzaier Posted October 27, 2017 Author Posted October 27, 2017 Hi, The rings were never entered as far as I know.
spolei Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chris Boonzaier said: Hi, The rings were never entered as far as I know. Thats not right. I have seen some in the lists. Here one example. Awarded in June 1918 Edited October 27, 2017 by spolei
Chris Boonzaier Posted October 28, 2017 Author Posted October 28, 2017 HI, interesting, but I think more the exception than the rule. I am guessing maybe 1 or 2 companies used to enter them, but most did not. I have looked up 15-20 Ring wearers and none of them had the ring entered, so this is a really cool entry.
spolei Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 Hello Chris, here another example. Awarding in october 1917. I think the early awardings would be signed in the rangliste. A friend told me about 67 officers-rings. Exist a list of them? I know only this names of soldiers and NCO'shttp://www.kriegsopfer.org/Weltkrieg/Infanterie_Leib_Regiment/Leiberring.htm
Chris Boonzaier Posted October 28, 2017 Author Posted October 28, 2017 Hi, I researched some Guys who recieved it in July 1917, no entries. As each record was entered by the company clerks for the mans respective company, I would bet that it was dependent on the company as to whether the details were entered or not. i.e. 1. Komp entered the rings, 2. Komp did not. Here are a list of the officers... In the part 2 there are 6 officers who also recieved the Manschafts ring then later recieved the officers one. Oberst Ritter von Epp Oblt. d. R. Buchhierl Oblt. Schoerner Oblt. v. Bomhard Hptm. Frhr. v. Riedheim Oblt. d. R. Bretschneider Oblt. d. R. Murr Oblt. Frhr. v. Fraunberg Lt. Rüger Lt. d. R. Kammerer Hptm. Frhr. v. Bechtolsheim Lt. Graf v. Dürckheim Oblt. Graf v. Armansperg Oblt. d. R. Brötz Hptm. Frhr. v. Pranckh ++ Lt. Frhr. v. Pranckh ++ Hptm. Graf v. Bothmer Lt. v. Stettner Lt. Frhr. v. Godin Lt. d. R. Dunker Lt. d. R. Ritter v. Halt Oblt. Graf v. Bothmer Hptm. d. R. Herr Lt. d. R. Petzold Lt. d. R. Hartmann Hptm. d. R. Frhr. V. Pechmann Lt. März Oblt. Frhr. v. Speidel Ant Lt. d. R. Boehmer Lt. d. R. Neubert Oblt. d. R. Schumann Lt. d. R. Meng Lt. Frhr. v. Thüngen Oblt. d. R. Griebenow Lt. v. Lossow Part2 Lt. d. R. Puhl (154) Lt. d. R. Mitterer (1087) Lt. d. R. Hipper Lt. d. R. Fleischmann (743) Lt. d. R. Dreyer Lt. d. R. Dr. Brammertz Lt. d. R. Harrach Lt. d. R. Heilmann Lt. d. R. Betz (118) Lt. d. R. Mackh ++ Lt. d. R. Wirsing Lt. d. R. Koeppen (255) Lt. d. R. Dietlein(709) Lt. d. R. Jäger W. Lt. d. R. Streil Lt. d. R. Mooseder Lt. d. R. Westrum Lt. d. R. Stumm Lt. d. R. Send Lt. d. R. Leberle Lt. d. R. Breitschwerd Lt. d. R. Borchhardt Lt. d. R. Nissen Lt. d. R. Bernhard Lt. d. R. Jäger D. Most of the Part 2 officers were previously NCOs
Deutschritter Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Three Tapferkeits-Offiziere: Ludwig Streil received the Military Merit Cross (Bavaria), 3rd Class with the Crown and Swords (BMVK3.mKr⚔/BM5c.mKr⚔) on 11 September 1914, the Bavarian Bravery Medal (Military Merit Medal) in Gold (BMVM1/BgMV) on 1 December 1914, the Wound Badge (Verwundetenabzeichen 1918) in Gold and the Military Merit Order (Bavaria), 4th Class with Swords (BMV4⚔/BM4⚔) on 3 March 1919, among other awards. Ferdinand Hipper received the Military Merit Order (Bavaria), 4th Class with Swords (BMV4⚔/BM4⚔) on 8 November 1918. Nikolaus Puhl (1893–1954), received the Military Merit Order (Bavaria), 4th Class with Swords (BMV4⚔/BM4⚔) on 12 May 1918, he would later become lord of the manor in Landenham near Munich on the Austrian border and Lieutenant Colonel of the Wehrmacht. I imagine all three received the NCO AND the officer Leiberring? Thanks!
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